Bad idea to transfer into a major with specific prereqs that are not offered by CC?

<p>For example, here's the articulation agreement for the Engineering Physics major at UCSD:</p>

<p>ASSIST</a> Report</p>

<p>You can see that Moorpark College doesn't offer an equivalent for 7 of UCSD's Engineering Physics courses.</p>

<p>So how disadvantaged will a community college transfer student who's only taken the basic math/science/programming courses at his community college be as compared to a regular UCSD student who's taken all the specific courses for the major?</p>

<p>Hope that makes sense.</p>

<p>Thanks.</p>

<p>Have you tried using assist on other community colleges around your area? If they offer them, you could take them there. For example I'm planning on majoring in music and the community college I plan on attending doesn't offer three courses I need, but another local one does. </p>

<p>If the other colleges don't have them, call the Engineering department and ask them about equivalent courses that would satisfy the major requirements. ORRR You could do do what my friend is doing (WHICH WOULD BE A REALLY BAD IDEA) and major in something else with less all major pre-reqs offered and change your major when you get there. Down side is you probably wouldn't be prepared and you might have to stay an extra couple of years...so, uhh, don't do that :X</p>

<p>It looks like those classes are pre-reqs of each other, and in turn, they would be the pre-reqs for almost all of your upper division classes. Not being able to take all of those could result in you being stuck at the UC for a whole year.</p>

<p>Those ECE classes aren't really available anywhere. In fact at the ECE presentation at transfer admit day they gave us schedules to follow and it was clearly outlined that to do that major you should expect at least 3 years as the first year you will have to take those 6 courses. They will not hold them against you as I got in as an EE major with only a year of calc and no physics or chem, UCSD has a huge engineering department so they're relaxed if your a bit behind.</p>

<p>UCeric is right. Most community colleges are not going to offer any of those lower division courses. UCSD knows that, and they expect you to have to take them once you transfer. </p>

<p>As for your original question:
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So how disadvantaged will a community college transfer student who's only taken the basic math/science/programming courses at his community college be as compared to a regular UCSD student who's taken all the specific courses for the major?

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<p>What do you mean by disadvantaged? Do you mean will it take longer for you to graduate than a freshman EE admit? Probably. </p>

<p>It will be almost impossible to graduate within two years after transferring. Like UCeric said, they expect it to take you 3 years and even give you a three year plan. It takes that long because all the classes you take are prereqs for other mandatory classes, which are prereqs for other mandatory classes, which are prereqs for other mandatory classes,........ It is a pretty long string of classes.</p>

<p>There is very little wiggle room with your schedule in the first 3-4 quarters. </p>

<p>@UCeric Did you decide to go to UCSD? or stay at CC?</p>

<p>^ I'm still indecisive, I SIRed as it was worth 100 bucks to have more time to consider everything, but the 650 dollar payment to reserve housing is coming up and I can't waste that so I have to make up my mind quickly. It's not like the facts are going to change I just have to figure out which decision I'm most comfortable with which has been pretty hard.</p>

<p>Seems like you are on your way to UCSD then lol. I'll see you in ECE 15 and 25 in the Fall.</p>

<p>Thanks for the responses, guys.</p>

<p>UCEric, how long ago did you transfer to UCSD? The Assist Report says:</p>

<p>
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*Effective Fall 2006, these courses, or their equivalents, will be the minimum<br>
required preparation for all engineering transfer students. </p>

<pre><code> - Calculus I-for Science and Engineering (Math. 20A)

- Calculus II-for Science and Engineering (Math. 20B)

- Calculus and Analytic Geometry (Math. 20C)

- Differential Equations (Math. 20D)

- Linear Algebra (Math. 20F)

- Complete calculus-based physics series with lab experience

(Physics 2A-B-C)

- Chemistry 6A (except computer science and computer engineering

majors)

Note: Effective Fall 2007, a total of ten quarter-units of general

chemistry equivalent to UCSD's Chem 6 courses (including laboratory)

will be required for students applying to all majors offered by the

Department of Electrical Engineering.

- Highest level of introductory computer programming language course

offerings at the community college (except structural engineering

department majors)**

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</code></pre>

<p>...and yet you said you transferred "with only a year of calc and no physics or chem."</p>

<p>^ I'd be starting this fall. If you qualify for UCSD's TAG (3.0 + IGETC) and pick an engineering major that is not impacted (basically any but Bio, Mech or Aero) you can get in with basically no pre-reqs completed.</p>

<p>UChopeful: Ha, I'm still not sure yet it's probably gonna come down to the wire, but if I do end up at UCSD this fall I'll be in Math 20C, Phys 2A, and Chem 6A. I'm kind of bummed about ECE 15, I took C++ at my JC and I don't really want to do basic programming again.</p>

<p>Assuming that since your prereqs are not offered at your specific jc means that you won't be penalized AT ALL is a bad idea. Of course you can get accepted if you don't have all prereqs completed. But a lot of people do get rejected because there are more competitive applicants- applicants with all prereqs completed. </p>

<p>Are you willing to commute to other CCCs? Perhaps spend a summer somewhere else? Have you tried concurrent enrollment at your local CSU/UC? It is definitely worth it.</p>

<p>
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^ I'd be starting this fall. If you qualify for UCSD's TAG (3.0 + IGETC) and pick an engineering major that is not impacted (basically any but Bio, Mech or Aero) you can get in with basically no pre-reqs completed.

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<p>Wow, I didn't know that. Thanks for the info.</p>

<p>I'll be in Phys 2A as well. I'm also going to be taking ECE 15 and ECE 25. I'm taking math 20c and 20e this summer. Once each session.</p>

<p>^ phys 2a is such a big class I wonder if we would ever run into each other haha</p>

<p>
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^ I'd be starting this fall. If you qualify for UCSD's TAG (3.0 + IGETC) and pick an engineering major that is not impacted (basically any but Bio, Mech or Aero) you can get in with basically no pre-reqs completed.

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<p>Sounds almost too easy to me?</p>

<p>^
Dude.. have you seen the acceptance thread? I've seen engineers who got accepted that didn't do Calc 3, all of physics, and all of chemistry.</p>

<p>With TAG, of course.</p>

<p>haha, so chance me if I TAG in to CSE with no pre-reqs completed at CC but will be ready for the classes in the Fall. :P</p>

<p>100%... if you Transfer Admission GUARANTEE and meet the requirements for said guarantee you are 100% in, if you get rejected as some people with TAG did you call them and they let you in.</p>