baked chocolate goods ideas?

<p>Holidays make me feel like experimenting like a wannabe confectioner… esp. when you see baked /sweet goods in the supermarket at this time of year at marked up prices.</p>

<p>My sister and I are about to devour a big pot of black mushroom and chicken soup, so baking is out of the question today, but tomorrow I’m thinking…</p>

<p>I got a huge chunk of chocolate chips and chocolate bark… 3 dollars for 2 pounds of chocolate. So now … what do with it? I was thinking of maybe toasting marshmallows in melted chocolate over a pan (on low?) or maybe dipping fried carrots in chocolate, or doing sugar cookies dipped in chocolate, or maybe have chocolate in the center? Melted chocolate contained in sweet dough? How do you make those hollow wafer balls with sweet stuff in the center? I know it’s not going to turn out quite like Ferrero Rocher, but I want to try nevertheless.</p>

<p>I’d just melt it and dip Pringles potato chips in it, then let them cool. The contrast of sweet/salty and smooth/crunchy is divine.</p>

<p>brownies
chocolate fondue with fruit
chocolate crinkle cookies
chocolate mousse.
Wow…what a fewast.</p>

<p>fried carrots dipped in chocolate? Is that something people do?</p>

<p>Dip pretzels in the melted chocolate- cool on a sheet of baking parchment or waxed paper.
Or coat any kind of nuts.</p>

<p>An old standy-by-- stir rice crispies or corn flakes into the melted chocolate and mound on the parchment to cool.</p>

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<p>Have you tried fried carrots? They’re awesome – caramelised (in a bit of spice or curry or maybe five spice powder) they taste like a mix of tapioca, sweet potato, potato and I dunno – with some caramelised fruit or sweet onions it’s awesome.</p>

<p>Well no I’m not sure if it’s something that people do but the untried has never stopped me~~</p>

<p>Melt some chocolate and mix it up with some buttered, salted popcorn. Sort of like the pringles idea. The combination of salt, sweet, fat, and the crunchy popcorn is really addictive. This is also equally delicious with white chocolate.</p>

<p>Chocolate nut clusters. Otherwise, you will need many more ingredients besides your chocolate. :)</p>

<p>Perfect for eating … clusters maybe with crushed corn flakes for the wafery texture… </p>

<p>But if I’m serving it to guests (fellow college students) I was thinking of investing a little crafty-artsy labour into it too … it doesn’t have to look like storebought candy, but actually that’s all the fun as I could be a little creative with it! Any ideas? A very thin layer of crispy dough with baking powder (maybe use cornflour?) </p>

<p>Maybe … I dunno. I’m thinking of cracking a tiny hole in an egg, pouring the egg out, use the eggs to make a chocolatey candy mixture, pouring the mixture back in the eggshell (should I seal the hole, maybe with dough?), react it at a high temperature such that it solidifies into a hardened shell with a soft nucleus, then crack the rest of the eggshell to expose the hardened ball for dipping into other things? (Drawing board here…)</p>

<p>I’m thinking that maybe a short bit of frying would create a hard outside and a soft outside … maybe with sweetened flour…? but of course I have no experience with chocolate confectionery and its chemistry is totally alien to me.</p>

<p>Be careful with raw or undercooked eggs - they potentially carry Salmonella. To make “chocolatey-egg mixture”, you have to carefully heat it in a double-boiler (sort of like heating a reaction mixture in a temperature-controlled oil bath) while constantly whisking, otherwise, you will end up with an omelette :slight_smile: Home-made chocolates are usually made by rolling the ‘filling’ into a ball which then can be covered with melted chocolate to make the ‘shell’.</p>

<p>If you want to utilize your chips and make candy-like treats, here is a good recipe that uses simple, easy to get ingredients:</p>

<p>[Chocolate</a> Cherry Balls Recipe](<a href=“http://homecooking.about.com/od/candyrecipes/r/bldes38.htm]Chocolate”>http://homecooking.about.com/od/candyrecipes/r/bldes38.htm)</p>

<p>Or may be you can simply make choclate fondue?</p>

<p>I hope Consolation sees this thread and responds - she is the CC chocolatier.</p>

<p>Any ways of playing around with the melting temperature / properties of melted chocolate?</p>

<p>I’m guessing – more sugar, more starch (flour) will raise the melting point or favour solidification</p>

<p>Adding more oil or butter (or eggs) will favour liquid? (As long as you don’t denature the eggs)</p>

<p>Like I’m thinking of a creation where liquid chocolate would coexist with solid chocolate at the same time. Of course I also have to keep the two phases separate…</p>

<p>Hmm, chocolate eutectics. Prolly time to pull out my chocolate-vanilla phase diagram (<a href=“http://science.nasa.gov/newhome/headlines/images/ms101/chocolate.gif[/url]”>http://science.nasa.gov/newhome/headlines/images/ms101/chocolate.gif&lt;/a&gt;)</p>

<p>We went to a party where the hostess served homemade truffles. She said that she got the recipe from foodnetwork.com. They were amazing.</p>

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<p>Sugar/starch should have some slight effect on melting point (more sugar=higher) but likely not enough to achieve the effects you want.</p>

<p>The higher the fat content, the more pliable and lower melting the chocolate. Also, the compositions of fats will make a difference. Highly saturated fats like cocoa butter (white chocolate), butter, coconut oil/palm oil will have higher melting point than more unsaturated fats. In addition highly saturated fats have the proper melting point to ensure a very smooth and pleasant mouth feel (the same reason they are so unhealthy :slight_smile: ) However, using a highly unsaturated fat such as vegetable oil is difficult to mix in and also hard to prevent “breaking” and greasy chocolate. Use caution mixing any oil that is liquid at room temperature in.</p>

<p>I’ve never heard of adding egg to chocolate. The chocolate is largely already “emulsified” in some sense, so you’re not really accomplishing anything. Be careful with egg shells as salmonella (if present) actually lives on the shell itself.</p>

<p>Another way of softening chocolate is to add milk or cream, which doesn’t so much affect melt point as just add moisture.</p>

<p>If you are melting chocolate over a stove, it can be tricky to not burn the chocolate. Use a double boiler technique (bowl over steaming pot) to ensure the chocolate never exceeds 100 deg C.</p>

<p>You might want to take a look at this website [Tempering</a> Chocolate - Kitchen Notes - Cooking For Engineers](<a href=“http://www.cookingforengineers.com/article/155/Tempering-Chocolate]Tempering”>http://www.cookingforengineers.com/article/155/Tempering-Chocolate)</p>

<p>Chocolate is fairly tempremental, but once you understand its melting properties it is fairly easy to work with. </p>

<p>If you add things to the chocolate it will effect the way it forms. If you want to try to add eggs to melted chocolate, I would beat the eggs well, into a high foam before adding them. And if adding cream or milk, or sour cream, have them at room temperature. An easy way to make a nice chocolate ganache is melt the chocolate and then stir in an equal amount of sour cream or warmed cream (if you use cream you may have to beat the mixture to get the texture you want) and a pinch of salt. If you have more sour cream then chocolate, then it will be fairly soft and is good for frosting. The more chocolate you add the stiffer it will get until it gets to the point that you can let it come back to room temperature and it will be stiff enough to roll into balls. Roll these in cocoa or chopped nuts and you have truffles.</p>

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<p>Oh interesting that the liquid is harder to work with – why is this? Is it a solubility issue – unsaturated fats are too kinky and do weird things to the chocolate complex? </p>

<p>(I suppose solids are better, cuz then I can demonstrate to my sister and be like, “oh loook! melting point depression!” and do cool stuff like finding a eutectic point.) </p>

<p>Thanks everyone! Can’t wait to try out all these ideas!</p>

<p>I’m not a chemist so I don’t know why exactly highly unsaturated oils don’t work, but it just doesn’t mix in well. It’s possible to thoroughly mix it in (people sometimes use this trick to make chocolate fountains run smoother) but it apparently makes a kind of greasy slimy chocolate that’s less than appetizing. </p>

<p>FYI, see [url=<a href=“http://www.cem.msu.edu/~reusch/VirtualText/physprop.htm]Supplemental”>http://www.cem.msu.edu/~reusch/VirtualText/physprop.htm]Supplemental</a> Topics<a href=“search%20for%20chocolate%20in%20the%20page”>/url</a></p>

<p>Oh hmm, maybe it’s the dual presence of solid + liquid phases (liquid + proeutectic), in which case the liquid predominating is the oil, not the melted cocoa solids, resulting in the greasy unappetising mess you describe. Whereas solid or near solid-fat should have pretty low partial pressure, wouldn’t dominate the liquid so much above eutectic temperature, yet is sufficient to lower the free energy of the liquid cocoa mixture and prevent cocoa solids from precipitating?</p>

<p>The amount of well-meaning misinformation on this thread is astounding! :)</p>

<p>In the first place, what kind of chocolate do you have? Chocolate is formulated for different uses. The kind of chocolate chips one generally finds in the supermarket, for example, are formulated to keep their shape after melting. What do you mean by “bark”?</p>

<p>Forget about cornstarch–yuck–and other weird additives. If you want to mix chocolate with egg, make a flourless cake such as Rose Levy Beranbaum’s Chocolate Oblivion Truffle Torte. It’s great. </p>

<p>If you want to make a ganache, use chopped chocolate and hot heavy cream. Put the chocolate in a metal bowl, heat the cream to just boiling, pour it over the chocolate, wait for 20 seconds or so, and begin stirring from the center in one direction using a metal spoon until all of the chocolate is melted and the cream is incorporated and it has the consistency of pudding, more or less. </p>

<p>The proportions will depend on what you plan to do with it. A good starting point for truffles is 6 fluid ounces of cream to 1 lb of chocolate. You can increase the cream a little, but don’t go over 8 oz or it will be hard to handle. I would add a pinch of salt to the cream when heating it. If you want a really nice mouthfeel, wait until the ganache is room temp and beat in some softened unsalted butter. You can add additional flavors by infusing the cream with spices and straining them out, by adding oils and extracts, or by adding liqueurs (usually 3-5 tablespoons per pound of chocolate).</p>

<p>Assuming that you do not want to go out and buy chocolate molds, the best way to get a softer center inside a shell is the <em>real</em> way to make truffles: make a soft ganache, form it into balls, and dip it in melted couverture. (Which you will have to temper. Tempering is the process of melting chocolate, then cooling it until the point where a sufficient number of the right kind of cocoa butter crystals have formed before bringing it back up to working temperature.) </p>

<p>Be aware that Lindor Truffles are made with garbage ingredients in order to get “flow” and extend shelf life. You can do better at home if you start with good ingredients, the most important of which is good chocolate. Garbage in, garbage out. </p>

<p>I could go on and on about the refinements of making truffles and chocolates forever. :slight_smile: It would help to know what you have and what you actually want to make.</p>

<p>Oh, and if you want to make something yummy that doesn’t involve a lot of equipment, try lightly toasting some sweetened shredded coconut and mixing it into melted chocolate, then dropping it by teaspoonfuls onto parchment paper or waxed paper. It’s really very good, even if you aren’t a big coconut lover. They call them “haystacks.”</p>

<p>OK, so about this saturated fat thing… what would be good yet economical to use? I’ve never seen palm oil sold in supermarkets I think – prolly cuz American consumers are so finicky. Do Hispanic markets sell it? Should I just use Crisco shortening?</p>

<p>My guess is the fats are just too heterogeneous, you have some fatty acid chains that are very saturated and some fatty acid chains that are polyunsaturated, and at any point between their melting points (i.e. room/body temperature), one is trying to be in liquid stage and the other in solid, and you get a greasyness instead of an intermediate melting point.</p>

<p>Of course you could always try a small sample batch and report back</p>