<p>Britter, did you ever talk to your contact person at Barrett? You really did have good stats so I am hoping you were able to get some further info on why you weren’t accepted. I do agree that you shouldn’t rule out ASU and you will probably be able to still get into Barrett in the spring, especially if you find out what they want you to fix from the first go round. I hope it all works out for you!</p>
<p>Hey, like everybody else here I’m a little surprised, I was just admitted to Barretts for fall and my stats were similar to yours, except I had a 3.9. I would call and try to find out, but definitely suggest going to ASU and enjoying it and reapplying for spring when its easier. My guess is that the essay is what went wrong, since the essay is suuuper critical for Barretts, as all the admissions and office people will insinuate. But ASU is a great school and getting better all the time, you should go to a place that you just love and click with and it sounds like ASUs that school - you gotta think about where youll be happy! With a little research on ratemyprofessors theres no reason why you cant go to super challenging and good classes even if youre not in honors.</p>
<p>^oh, I forgot to mention that some honors classes are open to non-honors students with really good GPAs and permission from the professor. Good luck! :)</p>
<p>Well I talked to the admissions director, and he said that it was just my GPA that was too low, as I was unaware that the ABOR GPA even existed, and my ABOR was lower than my overall unweighted, so. But I have been having considerable email correspondence with him, and hopefully it ends up working out.</p>
<p>what is an ABOR gpa???</p>
<p>LAXer25: My thoughts exactly. I had to Google it. It stands for the Arizona Board of Regents GPA. It’s composed of mainly core classes, not sure how they pick which math, history, science courses, etc. as most people exceed the number of credits that supplement into the calculation. I believe it’s like, 4 English, 4 Math, 3 History, 2 Science, 2 Foreign Lang., and 1 Fine Art.</p>
<p>And traditionally they are lower than your unweighted.</p>
<p>When they choose classes for the ABOR (if you have extra science credits for example) they use the higher grades to compute the 16 core courses. Could be your gpa looks low because of a lot of honors B’s etc. You have a very good ACT score. </p>
<p>The number of Barrett admits is tightly limited for 1st semester freshman year because of the number of seats available in the “Human Event” class. If you like ASU and the Jschool in particular, I would enroll and pack your bags, it’s a very competitive program and I don’t think you’ll be disappointed. </p>
<p>The low averages for admission at ASU reflect the university’s mandate to educate the people of Arizona, but it is not necessarily reflective of the class profile that persists to graduation. Arizona has the unique handicap of two major metropoitan areas in the entire state and a small number of colleges serving those areas. Giving more students an opportunity does not indicate lowering the standards required for the graduation outcome. </p>
<p>Opportunities to enroll in Barrett are open at other points in your academic career up until your junior year if that’s what you want to do later on - and you may be offered admission later this year as some previously admitted students will go elswhere and their seats become available in the Human Event class.</p>
<p>what if my science and math classes are currently in progress? Do they look at a midyear report or something?</p>
<p>See, I’m not sure. Because my 4th English is in progress, but they calculated it anyway. I guess they just do without, maybe.</p>
<p>so do they probably just use 9th-11th grades?It would be nice if they actually told us about how they calculate their version of gpas.</p>
<p>Haha, agreed. It certainly would have saved us all a lot of confusion. And I had to dig around on the internet to even figure out what it was. And yes, I guess they do. Because although it calls for 4 English and Math, they didn’t ask for a 7th semester transcript, so.</p>
<p>I assume you are thinking about Barrett/ASU?</p>
<p>I think I really messed up on my application… I’m an incoming freshman and for my major, I applied for Technological Entrepreneurship and Management, a WUE program, but was admitted into Operations Management Technology. The link they gave me was to the Technological Entrepreneurship and Management page, so I thought it was just a naming discrepancy since it was a new program and I put Operations Management Technology as my major on the Barrett app. I just revisited the page again today, and saw that OMT is the B.A.S. version of TEaM; in other words, it’s for transfer students with an associates degree. I’m going to call the advising office and see if I can get put into the right major, but I already submitted my Barrett app and it’s been two weeks. Will that make a difference?</p>
<p>Also, I said that I was planning on sending 3 letters of recommendation, but my third recommender has been MIA at school and hasn’t responded to my emails; I have no idea where she went. I submitted 2 of them, but will that be something that the admissions panel would look down upon?</p>
<p>It’d would have been nice for those of us who don’t live in Arizona to be told about the gpa thing. And yes, I’m hoping to get into Barretts. But unfortunately, I have lower stats that you, so I’m hoping that my essay will get me in. I also barely sent in my app on the 7th…so I’m hoping and praying, but other than that there’s really not much else I can do. </p>
<p>And wackowasko, I would just call and ask them.</p>
<p>LAXer25: It certainly would have been helpful. Yeah see, I just have a really low ABOR GPA, so. It killed my overall profile. So you still have a chance. Yeah mine is in re-review so pretty much the same situation here. Hope you get in!</p>
<p>Wackowasko: I think I may actually be able to help. I applied for the Journalism school, but they didn’t start accepting until this month, so when I applied to Barrett it said Exploratory College. And I had said I would sent 4 LOR, but only ended up with two, as they said they should arrive within two weeks of application being sent, one of those weeks being Thanksgiving. So I emailed Keith Southergill (Director of Admissions) when I was rejected and he said they will re-review files with new supplementary information (additional LORs, major changes, etc.), and that major changes can affect acceptance. So if you don’t get in call or email them, or call while it’s still in consideration. Can’t hurt!</p>
<p>WW - if you’ve submitted your application but now find that one of the letters you listed will not be arriving, I would contact Keith Southergill at Barrett and let him know that the teacher has not been at school since your request and that you would not want your application held up waiting for the third letter.</p>
<p>Hello! DS will be a freshman at Barrett this fall. For those of you still applying, it may help to know that DS’s GPA was significantly below their stated average GPA, and he was admitted less than a month after turning in his application. So don’t give up hope. :)</p>
<p>What if I don’t even have a fine arts credit? I was just going to have a deficiency but now with this weird GPA they use… UGH</p>