<p>let’s rekindle this discussion shall we…
i would like to stick to the facts on smoking marijuana.
marijuana is against my morals. let me explain why…
marijuana is a plant that is cultivated. i think a large percentage of pot smokers dont go into the depth of pot itself
or where it comes from or who has grown what they are smoking.
how ever, let me start with the cannabis clubs. in california their are over 100 dispenceries throughout the state. these clubs are after 1 thing. MONEY!.
they are not there to provide for the sick and dieing.they are there to obtain money and lots of it!! if there were no money invovled these clubs would disappear all together. now…who supply’s these clubs?
i’ll tell you…other member’s of the medical marijuana communities(growers,cultivators,card holders,those who hold perscriptions).
at one time ,any stranger could walk into a cannabis club , call himself a vender, and be seen by the buyer(owner of the club or person running the show)of course he had to always have product(marijuana) in his possesion. now the laws have changed accordingly. you have to have a perscription from a doctor to be seen as a vender in the eye’s of the club and the law.
now just because a person has a perscription or is a card holder doesnt nessisarily mean that the person is sick ,it just might mean that that person has found a way to be seen as a vender and has found a way to sell his product. a very gray area in my opinoin! their are also doctors giving perscriptions under the easiest of cercomstances.doctors are also in it for the money. QUESTION= is anyone in need of a perscription? i can send you to a doctor that will perscribe you to leagally use pot…and it will only cost you 200.00 dollers. money can make educated people do stupid stuff!
anyways let me go on…
those people who supply these clubs are also in it for the money.
now what would happen if thier crop was to be in jepordy of failure?
well since money is very powerful,they would probibly do what ever it took to keep that crop from failing. do you agree?
here are some preventatives that growers take to keep thier crop from failing:
sulfer burning,
spraying deadly pestticides.
let me explain for all the pot smokers who think it is not harmful.
sulfer burning is a method that is used to keep a devistating mold,or mildews under control!!
so if a peorson wants to harvest his crop soon,but all of a suddin mildews or molds start to grow what does he do?? he simply burns sulfer so that sulfer can lie all over his crop to stop the molds,mildews dead in thier tracks.
and he is no dought burning sulfer up untill he harvestes his money making crop.is that immoral?? or maybe it’s immoral for a cannibis club to take sulfer treated marijuana. i think it is. well let me assure anyone who thinks a club distributing medical marijuana woulnd do that, is sadly mistake’n.i assure you they would. because in the end is all about one thing money!!
sulfer is oderless,tasteless,and cannot be seen when smoking sulfer treated marijuana.
now let’s move to another aspect of saving a money making crop and what it takes to keep it from being destroyed.
deadly pesticied.
AVID, is a very deadly pesticide that can kill and cause harm to a person’s neurological sytem…hold on just got a call from work…i am on call tonight so i gotta run. im going to post even though i have much more to say . any questions or feed back is apriecieated. thanks .be back soon</p>
<p>Thats why you grow hydro in your closet.</p>
<p>this is weird.</p>
<p>Paragraphs would be useful.</p>
<p>guess you don’t want to walk into a meat plant, or eat any “regular” fruit either</p>
<p>they should market organic pot, there you go</p>
<p>and wonder if the OP was doing research when he wrote that post</p>
<p>get your facts straight. At least if you’re gonna come on this board come with rational arguments and learn to write well.</p>
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<li><p>Cannabis clubs in California are after money, they’re an example of the way the market could function and cottage industries would spread if cannabis were legal. Many however, are actually cooperatives that are not for profit, such as the Santa Cruz cooperative and one of the clubs here in Berkeley. </p></li>
<li><p>Medical cannabis has provided real help to those with MS, spinal injuries, seizures, AIDS-wasting, cancer, and the terminally ill. To say that it hasn’t helped people is ignorant and false. Synthetic THC does not work as well as inhaled cannabis (vaporized or smoked) and one needs 8 times the recommended dosage to get any effects–also, for those needing to stimulate appetite, or who throw up too much, the pills will take too long and will get vomited out. Some club members may not really be sick, and they’re abusing the system, but it highlights the demand for cannabis and the potential that a future cannabis industry could have. I would say however, that many people benefit tremendously by the safety this legislation provides, as sick people don’t have to resort to street dealers.</p></li>
<li><p>You’re right, there’s dangers inherent in an illicit industry that these clubs have to deal with. However, regulating, taxing, and legalizing the industry, at least for medicinal purposes will take away this danger.</p></li>
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<p>You’re comments are based on fear and ignorance, you have no grasp of the issue and are spewing government rhetoric that has no merits whatsoever. As long as tobacco and alcohol (two poisonous substances which kill millions) are legal, there is no logical argument to keeping Cannabis illegal. I understand your moral objections to putting any substance into the body, that’s legitimate: but please preach tolerance. Cannabis has been used psychoactively for 12,000 years, has potential to be a crop that will make billions and eliminate the need for the lumber industry for paper. It’s a historic crop grown by George Washington and Thomas Jefferson, the US constitution is written on Cannabis (hemp) paper. While you may not find it moral, others have for thousands of years and it has a tradition of being a safe and spiritual substance. I’m accepting of your decisions, be accepting of mine.</p>
<p>The dangers of cannabis come from its illegality.</p>
<p>I don’t smoke because I don’t want to destroy my lungs, and because I’m not comfortable with doing something illegal, even if it is a mainstream something.</p>
<p>definitely a concern man, i feel yah. I hate smoking because it does f up my lungs. I wanna get a vaporizer so that those problems disappear. Vaporizers heat cannabis to around 190 degrees C, which activates the active psychoactive ingredients and so you inhale vapor–cannabis steam, kinda. which hasn’t any tar or carbonized matter to pollute the lungs.</p>
<p>i’m sure that the ten billion college kids who smoke weed every once in a while to chill out and listen to some sabbath are really going to be swayed by your arguments, “Dennis Romero”!</p>
<p>Eating fatty foods over a period of many years will do a human body much worse than many years of some occasional pot. Is eating unhealthy food also immoral? Of course not. Do those who sell fatty foods do so at the expense of others’ health just so they can make money? Yes they do. Smoking pot isn’t a matter of morals at all. The only reason that viewpoint comes up is because society tries to drill it into kids heads that it is something more than it really is. That isn’t to say that I condone smoking pot or enjoy it. I really don’t, and personally choose not to use it. But morals aren’t an issue with regard to pot. Such an idea is a contrived mindset that this society has made up for us.</p>
<p>“I don’t smoke because I don’t want to destroy my lungs, and because I’m not comfortable with doing something illegal, even if it is a mainstream something.”</p>
<p>Well if you’re against doing anything illegal, even if it is main stream, then you are currently against:</p>
<p>1)Driving above the speed limit
2)Drinking before age 21
3)Music Piracy</p>
<p>If you can honestly say when you get your driver’s license that you adhere to all 3 of those points, then your argument is valid.</p>
<p>I don’t care man, I just want to get hiiigh.</p>
<p>to all who dought me!!
those so called non prophit compassion clubs are ********.
someone’s making money! i have vended many times to a non prophit, and beleave me they are far from non prophit.
yes i too have read the book “the emperor wears no clothes” written by JACK HERRER…
the fact is government doesnt have control.so until government gets control, i need to expose true knowledge about medical marijuana and what it takes to keep up with the demand for it.
because the supply will never catch up with the demand for it.
i dont speak from fear or ignorance. i speak from hands on exspierience.
i never said marijuana hasnt helped the sick!! i am simply trying to give knowledge to people who are interested in the depths of what they are smoking. .-where it comes from ,and ,or, how it was treated.</p>
<p>also ,just because you smoke vaporizing,(no tar or carbonized matter) doesnt change the fact that you are still ihailing something that is hot 190 degreez. the lungs contain microscopic hairs that ly down when hot smoke is inhailed.it can take an hour for those tiny hairs to stand back up again.
it is unnatural to do that to your lungs.</p>
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I don’t drive, and I don’t have a license.
I don’t drink.
I never had access to the software, and I’ve had a prepaid iTunes account ever since I got an iPod.</p>
<p>What exactly is your point?</p>
<p>Dennis, you’re an idiot. String together a proper sentence and stop ■■■■■■■■. I guarantee that 99% of the cannabis in states like CA, Oregon, Washington is untainted and clean.
I don’t know wth you’re saying about government control. You make no sense.</p>
<p>On the vaporization issue, again, you’re just stupid. People inhale warm air all the time it’s WARM AIR. If that’s a real issue, then allow the bag to cool or run the air through an ice bong. According to a MAPS-NORML study, vaporization has almost no effect on the lungs.</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.maps.org/mmj/vaporizer.html[/url]”>http://www.maps.org/mmj/vaporizer.html</a></p>
<p>why do you continue to insult me? I feel you insult me because of your frustration.
I choose to give approiate information on horticulture concerning marijuana.
I grew marijauna indoors in a 4000 sq.ft wharehouse for 5 years.(40 lights).
I grew this marijuana in OAKLAND, which is the city right next door to BERKLEY.
I also operated a hydro store for 2 years.
I have a deep knowledge for the buisness and the medical marijuana community.
if the government had control of the way medical marijuana is grown or treated. i might not have a leg to stand on.
government doesnt supply co-op’s,compassion’s,cannabis clubs.
we do,the people who grow it on a large scale.
if you think 99% of the weed is untainted and clean .you are sadly mistakin.
have you ever even heard of AVID?
Avid, manufactured by Syngenta (formerly by Novartis), is a so-called “natural” pesticide, extracted from a soil bacterium. It is applied to plants in the FLOWERING stage(60 day residual). It is classified by the industry as “slightly” toxic, but by entomologists as “highly” toxic.</p>
<p>Mikuriya(a california doctor) has been been urging since the mid-1990s that cannabis dispensed for medical purposes be screened for pesticide residue. "Patients with HIV and other illnesses that compromise the immune system are at even greater risk " he observes.</p>
<p>So why don’t you say this to begin with instead of ranting off. If there’s problems with grows then it’s simply because of the industry’s illicit nature. I still highly doubt that there’s much tainted weed in CA simply because we don’t see any large numbers of people getting sick because of smoking cannabis.</p>
<p>Legalize it, regulate it, tax it, and then we’ll keep it clean.</p>
<p>And yes, I’ll continue to insult you until you can put together a proper sentence and a proper argument. Write in paragraphs and spell correctly. I’m frustrated because you claim to be an expert and claim to know what you’re talking about, yet you don’t tell us why, you don’t use any hard numbers, you don’t really have anything to back up your claims. </p>
<p>And honestly, you don’t need pesticides to have a good grow, I know of plenty of people who run grows organically and without any pesticides.</p>
<p>dennis romero has smoked so much weed that his brain has broken and fallen out and he is spasming random words onto the internet </p>
<p>that is the only explanation for this thread</p>
<p>Dennis Romero, if you want to be taken seriously, begin by writing coherently.</p>
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<p>Since you don’t have a driver’s license, you missed the point entirely. My point was that unless you can follow the law to the letter (especially out on the road), your argument is invalid.</p>