<p>I’m actually a student, a rising junior, but this is a rather specialized question so I thought I’d be more likely to find an answer here. Yale’s SCEA FAQ says that you can apply to other schools EA if it’s required for scholarships and it notifies after January 1st. Beloit’s website says that EA students generally get first/best pick of the merit money–but not ONLY pick–and it claims to notify before January 15 for the December 1 deadline. However, from what I’ve heard on CC, Beloit sends out EA acceptances way before then, probably before Jan. 1.</p>
<p>Could I apply to both Yale SCEA and Beloit EA? The latter would be mightily convenient for the safety-in-the-pocket aspect, but also for FA.</p>
<p>You could ask 'em, but the terms of the Yale restriction and the terms of the Beloit EA look like they were written with each other in mind. I’m not certain whether Yale had Beloit in mind, but Beloit sure seems like it was trying to fit itself into the Yale exception. Asking would be good, but I might be tempted not to ask and to rely on Beloit being close enough (and unthreatening enough to Yale) that Yale wouldn’t rescind an EA acceptance if it learned that you had also applied EA to Beloit, unless Yale had given much more specific guidance.</p>
<p>bigp, I’ve been researching colleges–on my own, without parental nudging–for half a year now. I think it’s safe to conclude that anything I might look into would be a little early.</p>
<p>JHS, that is exactly my temptation. So I suppose the question would be whether such a course of action is ethical.</p>
<p>tokenadult, I’m not sure how to construe your tone–do you mean to be sarcastic or serious? I’m attracted to Yale and Beloit for very different reasons (well, strength in creative writing would be a common point), but solid reasons nonetheless. In fact, at present Beloit would be my wholeheartedly following the advice, “love thy safety.”</p>
<p>And I’m just as curious as cptofthehouse about the specific reasoning behind Yale’s loophole.</p>
<p>Beloit is a wonderful school, loved by many who go there. When I lived in Chicago, I knew a number of kids who went there. Very well regarded. Supposed to be wonderful professors and a lot of care shown to the students.</p>
<p>As for Yale’s reasoning, the very existence of this question demonstrates it. Yale knows perfectly well that a ton of great students who don’t have a meaningful chance are going to apply to it EA. It doesn’t want them applying EA to Georgetown or MIT or Chicago or BC – colleges that are actual somewhat competitors – but it doesn’t want perfectly good applicants to miss out on a chance for merit scholarships at LACs or next-tier unis that aren’t really in the same market space. The notification after 1/1 condition ensures that it’s not really an institution with which Yale is competing.</p>
<p>Don’t worry yet. One or both may change the rules before you get to that point. Enjoy your junior year, explore, do great in school and worry about this in about 11 months.</p>
<p>Beloit’s EA is not binding. You just apply Dec 1 and learn by Jan 15 if you have been accepted. So, perhaps, talking to Yale about what they do and do not require would be best. In the meantime, Beloit does not mind if you apply to other schools while applying EA to Beloit, because early action just lets you know if you go in or not.
BELOIT is a great school also, I go there.</p>
<p>NewHope: I don’t think it’s too early to think about such things. In looking for safeties, wouldn’t it make sense to choose schools with the most flexible application options? The same applies to application fees (some are waived if you apply online) and whether official CB transcripts must be sent (another fee). Obviously fit is most important, but like any criteria, there’s always a point of diminishing return.</p>
<p>Beloit is an amazing school, it may not attract as many 2400 4.0s, but it gives just as good (if not better) of an education yale gives. I know someone who picked it over uChicago and Carleton.</p>
<p>I suggest you call or email Yale and ask about the SCEA policy. </p>
<p>My son called Yale to asked about UNC EA, URochester, and UMiami. Yale said yes to UNC, since the official EA notice was in Jan. and in general, Yale is ok with state school apps. In reality, my son received a likely letter from UNC before Christmas so he knew he was in, and it didn’t interfere with Yale since that wasn’t an “official” acceptance. He was allowed to apply to URochester by the earlier deadline required for merit awards and the REMS medical program deadline. I don’t remember if that was truly EA or not, but it was before the regular decision deadline. I may be wrong here, but I think he was not allowed to apply early action to UMiami because it was NOT REQUIRED to do so for scholarships or their med program. Despite waiting for RD, he still received the Singer Scholarship (full tuition).</p>
<p>There was no problem with asking Yale up front. Although deferred at Yale, my son was eventually accepted to all the schools involved here. So, he was glad he had gotten the ok from Yale ahead of time. Senior year is nerve wracking enough. Kids shouldn’t have to worry if an acceptance will be rescinded. Yale admissions was very helpful and accommodating. </p>
<p>BTW, if applying SCEA, Yale told us to make sure to submit your Profile a week or so early because it takes time for processing before it actually gets to them.</p>
<p>Thanks jerzgrlmom–I’ve already emailed my regional counselor about a specific college, but I’m glad to know that asking wasn’t viewed negatively or as a nuisance.</p>
<p>Kudos to you! I think it’s great that you’re interested in college and are doing the groundwork to figure out how the admissions AND financial parts of it work. You sound like an incredibly mature and on the ball student to me. Best of luck!</p>