Berkeley Alumnus Wins Nobel Prize (Class of '78)

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<p><a href=“http://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2006/10/02_nobel.shtml[/url]”>http://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2006/10/02_nobel.shtml&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p><a href=“http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/medicine/laureates/2006/press.html[/url]”>http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/medicine/laureates/2006/press.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p><a href=“http://mednews.stanford.edu/fire/[/url]”>http://mednews.stanford.edu/fire/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>This guy was probably going to win the nobel prize anyways, irrelevant of which undergraduate institution he attended.</p>

<p>Considering he breezed through greatly underaged, his interaction between other students and campus life was probably minimal (which is a good thing).</p>

<p>He was an MIT Phd, and his co-winner was a Harvard PhD. I think they did their prize-winning work primarily in Baltimore some years ago.</p>

<p>Wow Shiboing - what negativity.</p>

<p>You could probably say the same thing about EVERY nobel prize winner - they were going to win the Nobel Prize regardless of where they went to for undergrad. You better strip all the claims other undergrad institutions have about their alumni winning Nobel prizes. Don’t just hate on Berkeley.</p>

<p>shibongboing/liberalcensor/collegesenior always has something nice to say. And Byerly, I’m sure if this guy went to Harvard for UG and then Berkeley for grad you’d say “Ug is where you learn how to learn, and Harvard made him great” or something like that. Or are you saying that UG doesn’t matter?</p>

<p>I said no such thing. I just added the information as to where each did their PhD training, and where they conducted the research that was recognized via prize.</p>

<p>See also: <a href=“http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2006/10/02/umass_gains_some_bragging_rights_in_shadow_of_mit_harvard/[/url]”>http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2006/10/02/umass_gains_some_bragging_rights_in_shadow_of_mit_harvard/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Such a predictable response, Shiboingboing, and one which again shows your true colors. Weren’t you the one who complained about how Berkeley has not produced an undergraduate Noble Laureate for many years? And now, when it happens again in recent history (don’t forget about Robert Laughlin who also graduated from Berkeley in the 70’s)? You’re a class act. :)</p>

<p><a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Laughlin[/url]”>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Laughlin&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Byerly, I’d like your opinion on something. In terms of nobel prizes, should the undergrad school get credit for the winner, or the institution where received their PhD/did their research?</p>

<p>I’m not sure what “credit” means in this context. Is a college entitled to “credit” for nurturing somebody who later did important work elsewhere, where he/she started or completed the work that was later recognized, or where he/she is currently teaching? </p>

<p>Everybody can brag, I suppose. </p>

<p>The trouble is, many are honored years after they did their best work, or years after they left their original school, often when they are in their dotage. Some warm weather schools look to serve as, in effect, “retirement homes” for aging scholars - (ie, Santa Barbara) whose presence is of dubious value to current students. So it depends.</p>

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<p>Not to mention that certain Nobel laureates are affiliated only with certain schools or certain departments within a particular university and practically never interact with students at that same university who belong to a different department. </p>

<p>To give you an example, while Robert Merton is indeed active at Harvard, he’s essentially only active within HBS. So his value to anybody at Harvard outside of the HBS community is questionable. This is simply because all of the various Harvard schools are highly territorial and insular, and HBS is arguably the most territorial of all of them, having its own gym and own dorms which are off-limits to anybody outside of the community, and almost never letting in undergrads into any of its classes. Similarly, undergrads have limited contact with Nobel Prize winners at many other universities who have ensconced themselves in a manner to effectively insulate themselves from undergrads.</p>

<p>I am bored. Whenever I look into elite college boards, I always see Byerly’s posts. If Harvard dropped early decision, why your schools do not follow Harvard? If your schools have accomplished anything, they are really nothing without Harvard’s involvements. If you are upset or offended, you know that Byerly means well. He bashes all schools.</p>

<p>Is the spam driving your crazy? Well, I have a fun solution. Let’s me summarize his today’s messages. You will feel better knowing that you are not the only victims in the CC. LOL</p>

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<p>It would be fun to compile this data and fact every day.</p>

<p>George Smoot won a prize for physics.</p>

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<p><a href=“http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/physics/laureates/2006/index.html[/url]”>http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/physics/laureates/2006/index.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Byerly, completely pathetic.</p>

<p>too bad smoot’s a horrible professor in terms of teaching.</p>

<p>Haha, t1388 you are bored indeed. But I have noticed too that Byerly could be a little less Harvard-centric. But hey, he/she can post whatever the heck he/she wants to on these boards, so long as he/she follows the rules.</p>

<p>Thanks for your tolerance, vicissitudes. I’ll be at the Oregon game Saturday night after an early dinner at Zax … perhaps I’ll see you there!</p>

<p>Sure. I enjoy seeing your posts from time to time. You bring some interesting articles to attention…like the new THES rankings (drats, Berkeley fell another 2 spots).</p>

<p>Is he the second for Berkeley this year?</p>