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<p>And you want to work in a law firm? Good luck, son.</p>
<p>" I’m going to law school to become a LAWYER, not a salesman."</p>
<p>Then don’t expect to ever make any money at the law. Ever hear the term “rainmaker?” Those are the people who become partners in law firms and live the good life. They are first and foremost salesmen. Since I’ve hired in law firms for many years, I know whereof I speak.</p>
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<p>I am sure you take this as we are ganging up against you, but we are not. We are trying to show you the “real world” It takes a lot more than graduating the no.1 in the class to be successful. Part of the real world is to understand that it is not altruistic…sorry, but if you want to live by your beliefs, you better have your parents pay for the degree, because you will not be able to pay back the loan, live and eat without understanding the bigger pic.</p>
<p>Just out of curiosity would type of law do you want to practice?</p>
<p>HATE TO SAY BUT IF YOU THINK YOU WILL MAKE BUCKETS OF MONEY AND LIVE BY YOUR ALTRUISTIC BELIEFS…I ALSO HAVE A BRIDGE TO SELL YOU IN NY :D</p>
<p>I’m rethinking my opposition to the draft…</p>
<p>bullet, you’ve found the perfect home for the future lawyer turning ■■■■■!!</p>
<p>I think Future’s problem is that he thinks he can live his life inside of some bubble. He doesn’t realize that EVERYTHING he says and does will have have some sort of affect on someone else. And that whatever is said or done “Around Him” will in fact have some sort of affect on him.</p>
<p>Because of this unavoidable affect, life requires compromise. You can’t always say what is on your mind about those you work with/for. You will have to compromise sometimes what you want to find a mutual arena with someone else you have to interact with. </p>
<p>Sorry future, but you are living in dream world. It doesn’t exist. You WILL say “Yes Sir/Maam” to those you work with/for even though you don’t agree with them. The key to being successful at whatever you do in life is compromise and cooperation. Ever heard the saying; “The customer is always right”. You will “Kiss B<em>tt” with certain clients you have as a lawyer. If you don’t you won’t have clients and therefor won’t make money. EVERYONE in the world has a “Customer”. You WILL at times kiss their B</em>tt. Wake up Future. Welcome to the “Real World”. Mind you however, i did say “COMPROMISE”. That means you don’t have to always give into ALL of your principles and beliefs. Part of the compromise is that sometimes it will be “YOUR WAY”. Sometimes, it WON’T.</p>
<p>Heavens, Future - my husband and I are attorneys - 20+ years out of law school. Between the two of us, we’ve worked in law firms, the district attorney’s office, private practice, and legal publishing. In every single legal job, yes you DO have to play some office politics and kiss some bootie.</p>
<p>I think your goals are lofty, but you are young and naive. I hope that you do get into the law school you want to some day, but don’t be surprised to figure out as you mature just how little you knew about the “real world” until you actually ENTERED it as a newly minted attorney.</p>
<p>[Breitbart.tv</a> ‘Get the F*** Off Me!’: New Video Emerges of Berkeley Marine Protests](<a href=“http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=55464]Breitbart.tv”>http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=55464)</p>
<p>Stay classy Berkeley</p>
<p>SIGH.</p>
<p>Honestly.</p>
<p>Just…</p>
<p>Sigh.</p>
<p>Wow…must be interesting to live in that country.</p>
<p>I’m sorry, what are we surprised about here? There are nut jobs on both sides of (and above and below) the political spectrum.</p>
<p>The only thing that surprises me is how stupid, uneducated, and ignorant these protesters are. Especially the fact that they are supposedly college students trying to become educated. Their parents are wasting their money.</p>
<p>Nothing in life and in this country is perfect. I understand that, and I support protesting for change. But there is a way to do it effectively without appearing to be an idiot. It seems that this is the only thing Berkley has to stand out in the world. The legacy they have to live up to from the 60’s. I was alive and well back then. While I wasn’t too involved, living on the east coast, this is all Berkley has ever been known for.</p>
<p>So here you’ve got a bunch of idiots protesting the very thing that allows them to protest. Oh yea, that makes sense. At least the hypocrites who supported the war in the middle east, and now change their mind because it’s not popular any longer and they don’t have the balls; at leave they have the decency to say they support the troops just not the war.</p>
<p>This group of wasted braincells actually protest the military as an institution. The same group of people who’s 1st and number 1 priority is to “PROTECT AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES AGAINST ALL ENEMIES, FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC”. In other words, they protest the people willing to die so they are allowed to protest. So here they are screaming about how cruel our military is and that they only want to live in peace. Yet they scream to “HIT” one of the passer byes who just so happen to not agree with them. </p>
<p>Berkley is a disgrace to the rest of the country. It’s places and people like at Berkley who give California the bad reputation of being the “Left Coast” made up all of liberals who don’t care about anyone else or the United States. I know that’s not true. I know a lot of great and wonderful people in California. But for the outsider, when they see idiots like at Berkley, they see that as representative of California. To think; all those brilliant kids who want to go to college and can’t afford it; yet we have this group wasting their education. Of course, they are only doing it for the attention feeling part of the crowd. There’s probably only about 10% of the protesters with any actual conviction for what they are doing. The rest are just lemmings. </p>
<p>I know that no one at Berkley is going to read any of these posts. I also know that there will be Berkley sympathizers here on the board. They will rationalize their “Rights”. Sorry, but we don’t have rights. We have privileges. The rights doesn’t mean quite the same today as it did 200+ years ago. A right is something THAT CAN NOT BE TAKEN AWAY FROM YOU. A privilege can be taken away either temporarily or permanently. So to clarify; these idiots at Berkley have the privilege to protest and speak their mind out against the military all they want. However, that privilege can and has been restricted when they started interfering with another person and their ability to agree, disagree, or stay neutral. But to use their favorite word “RIGHTS”. Your rights STOP, the moment you infringe on someone else’s RIGHTS.</p>
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<p>No, they have the right to do so. They do not have the right to prevent others from joining the military or from voicing an opinion to the contrary.</p>
<p>I strongly recommend a book written by Nat Hentoff, “Free Speech For Me But Not For Thee.”</p>
<p>We are talking semantics. Technically, a right is something that can’t be taken away from you. That isn’t the way the word has always been defined. But many of the so called “Rights” we speak of, can and have been taken away when for the good of others. I.e. freedom of speech. It has been restricted or taken away. Those in prison have had many “Rights” taken away. Originally, “Rights” were usually “God Given”; or so it was believed. </p>
<p>Anyway; we are talking semantics. I agree that those at Berkley as abused their “Rights” by infringing on others and their “Rights”.</p>
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<p>… excuse me? I hope you realize the irony in this.</p>
<p>As someone who IS at Berkeley – in both the town AND in the university – I have to take extreme exception to these sweeping generalizations. My very simple comment in response to the video LaxAttack09 linked to was because of this very thing, and I actually consider this the entire point of debate.</p>
<p>The City Council did not speak for the City of Berkeley. These protesters do not speak for the City of Berkeley. They don’t speak for the university, either. Do not, for one second, think that you’re advancing your argument by writing off the population of a very large public university and the city in which it exists based on the actions of a few hundred extremely liberal, very misguided protestors.</p>
<p>The men and women in Iraq are not dying to protect the Constitution. They’re dying to protect somebody else’s country. I do not resent them. I respect them. I resent the politicians, the strategists, the Cold War relics in high offices who have placed these Americans in harm’s way on false pretenses, and who have crippled our Constitution with legislation at home. The last time America went to war to stop an enemy with the power to seriously threaten the Constitution of the United States was World War II. The military has been used like a political tool.</p>
<p>The “you should thank God for the men who die for your right to say that” rhetoric doesn’t sit well with me, because people cling to this false image of the military as a spear in the hand of Liberty, bringing happy, shiny freedom to the world. I thank the military for keeping this nation safe. I thank the Coast Guard, the Army, the Navy, the Marines, the Air Force, and the Reserves. But when our men and women are killed in Iraq, I don’t see a glorious sacrifice at the altar of Freedom. If we had never gone to Iraq and sent thousands of Americans to die and tens of thousands to be wounded, would we have less freedom?</p>
<p>The protestors at Berkeley see, through a tainted lens, kids getting tricked into dying for nothing. It’s a less than accurate viewpoint, but if it were true it would be noble, and it is not based on hate. For every ignorant protestor at Berkeley, there is an ignorant nationalist who is blind to the immorality perpetrated by the United States government.</p>
<p>Undecided: I agree with what you’re saying. if you read my entire post, you would have noticed that I said that I know for a fact that the protesters at Berkley don’t reflect the vast population of California. I know that. I’ve said that. Unfortunately, there is also a large portion of the country who has a stereotypical view of California, and such ignorant protesting as Berkley only perpetuates this impression of California. It then makes it even harder for yourself and others to not be placed in that stigma. Again, I know Berkley and California isn’t that way.</p>
<p>Band; I don’t know what to tell you. The protesters at Berkley were protesting the military; and the marine recruiters directly. They want the marine recruiter office shut down. Even though Iraq may be controversial, that is just one small piece of the marine corp and the entire military. But protesting to close the recruiter station is to protest and say you don’t want any recruiters. You can’t separate what’s happening in Iraq with the rest of the military. It doesn’t work that way. If you want to protest the military being in Iraq, then protest your US senator and Representative. Go to Washington D.C. and protest the capitol and the white house. Protesting a military recruiting station is not a protest against Iraq. It’s a protest against the military as a whole and EVERYTHING it represents. Including protecting the constitution. And for what it’s worth; when the military fights a battle in the representative country instead of allowing it to continue it’s progression into our country, then they are protecting the constitution.</p>
<p>But, whether you agree with that or not, isn’t important. What is important is that there are no rational reasons to be protesting a recruiter’s office and demanding it be shut down. Your protests are totally misdirected. That would be like protesting “Drunk Driving” and doing it in front of the Ford or GM plant. That isn’t the place to be protesting.</p>
<p>Again; some see the war in Iraq as justified. There are plenty of reasons to believe it is. But if you don’t, that’s fine. Then protest that all you want. But do it appropriately. As I said, that isn’t done at the recruiter station. It isn’t done by yelling “HIT HIM; HIT HIM” about someone who doesn’t agree with your position. That is hypocritical and takes away all credibility to your argument. You are then protesting the military who ensures your right to protest; yet refuse to allow someone else their right to protest against your point of view. You believe it’s OK to hit that person. Do it, but do it right. If not, then don’t get mad when people criticize your methods and arrest you.</p>