<p>I’m facing one of the biggest dilemma as of right now. I got into Binghamton University through the EOP program and I got off the wait-list for Barnard College through the HEOP Program. I know both schools are amazing schools but I don’t know which school I should go to to pursue a nursing career. I know Binghamton have a top nursing program in NY but I don’t see nursing listed in Barnard College. If Barnard does not have a Nursing major, can I take classes at Columbia University’s School of Nursing? Which nursing program is more prestigious? If you have any experiences from either schools, I would love to hear it. I have until 4/18/14 to make my decision for Barnard College. I would love your feedback! </p>
<p>I assume Barnard covered your full need. In that case, I’d go with Barnard. The opportunities it’ll offer are unparralleled.</p>
<p>Barnard and Columbia do not offer undergraduate nursing degrees. You would have to do a pre-health major, then it apply to Columbia for the BS/MS. I doubt that prestige matters for a nursing undergraduate degree but it possibly may for the MS. You’d have to self pay the MS I guess with loans. This is something to discuss with the Barnard adviser, you should see if you can discuss this before enrolling. Time is running short.</p>
<p>This is interesting, you have to decide to go for the direct and immediate route at what you say is a top program. Or go for a liberal arts education, maybe more interesting route, plus the MS. One consideration is a lot of people change out of nursing programs because they are hard.</p>
<p><a href=“http://barnard.edu/dos/after-barnard/health-advising”>http://barnard.edu/dos/after-barnard/health-advising</a></p>
<p>Hi! I hope you don’t mind me asking, but how did you get off the Barnard waitlist? I really want to attend there/</p>
<p>Also to answer your question, I know that select majors Barnard students can take at Columbia like Computer Science and Stats, but I don’t know about Nursing. Barnard doesn’t list it as one of it’s major so I don’t think you can. Of course, I might be wrong, so please don’t take my word for it.</p>
<p>Thank you guys so much for your positive feedback. And sure, @eternaldream, I would love to answer your question. To get off the wait-list, I wrote a letter of continual interest. It’s almost like the last chance for you to prove to Barnard of your dedication and desire. In the letter, I wrote a short paragraph on why Barnard is still my top choice and I updated on my recent status after submitting my application. They want to see how important education for you is even after submitting your application. I’ve also got a letter of recommendation from an alumni who is my guidance counselor so that’s a plus. They called to inform me about my status so you should look forward for a phone call within this week. I wish you the best of lucks!</p>
<p>@BrownParent Thanks for your feedback. It’s something I should think about. What’s your opinion on this issue? Would you take a direct or indirect route? Nursing is definitely something I’m passionate about at this moment. </p>
<p>@cnyashirley Thanks so much for letting me know! 
I haven’t sent in my letter yet, (I keep being a perfectionist about it) I’ll try to send in my letter ASAP. When did you send in your letter if you don’t mind me asking?</p>
<p>I don’t know if it’s already too late to send in the letter of continual interest since they’ve already called students from the wait-list but it won’t hurt to try. I’ve sent it in the beginning of April because you’ll never know when they’ll make the decision. Surprisingly, they made the decision early because I’ve expected a notice from them in mid-May but they called me today. Again, it won’t hurt if you try! </p>
<p>I am most definitely going to try! It’s my dream school! Thanks so much again for your help! </p>
<p>I believe BrownParent is correct, but do call Barnard and ask what the process would be for someone who wants to become a nurse. I do know that Barnard does have health professions info sessions, and that Columbia has a school of nursing but how it all works, is not anything I know at all. Get the info and then you’ll know what your choices are.</p>
<p>^bump</p>
<p>My guess that an aspiring nurse at either Barnard or Columbia College would need to satisfy some entry level math and biology curriculum requirements (similar to pre-med?) since neither school provides undergraduate studies in nursing. That means that it would take longer than 4 years for you to get a B.S. nursing if you began at Columbia/Barnard.</p>
<p>By the way, unless things have changed in recent years, Barnard students are free to register for any course at Columbia that they meet the requirements for.</p>
<p>It’s still the case. For me, the wealth of opportunities at Barnard (and Columbia) and the pull it’ll have subsequently whatever career you choose is well worth choosing Barnard over Bing.</p>
<p>That “pull” won’t be so great if she really wants to be a nurse, but she doesn’t get the grades from Barnard to get into nursing programs subsequently.</p>
<p>I remember a long time ago on CC there was a guy complaining that he couldn’t get into nursing programs after graduating from Cornell, because those programs didn’t give him any grade bump for having gone to a college that graded tougher, in tougher courses, than the community colleges many of the other students came from. Most of the posters who answered, who were in the nursing profession, responded to the effect that this was perfectly appropriate and too bad on him, what makes him think his courses are any tougher. (BTW, they are).</p>
<p>If OP wants to be a nurse and has received entry to nursing school I don’t see why she shouldn’t go.</p>
<p>Neither Barnard nor Columbia has an undergraduate nursing major. The BS/MS program at the Columbia SON is for people who have already completed a bachelor’s degree and intend to get a second bachelor’s in nursing and then an MSN all in a series. It’s an entry-to-practice program, the idea being that you start out as a nurse practitioner. But you would have to spend 4 years getting an undergraduate degree in some non-nursing major and then 2-3 years in the BS/MS program. There are also prerequisites you have to meet, which are listed [url=<a href=“Academics | Columbia School of Nursing”>MDE Program for Non-Nurses | Columbia School of Nursing]here[/url</a>]. I’m pretty sure anatomy & physiology are not offered at Columbia or Barnard undergrad, so you’d have to cross-register - probably at City College up the street. I am also not sure if there is a nutrition course.</p>
<p>Also, you are applying to a graduate division of Columbia, and you have to compete just as if you were applying to any other Columbia professional school with other applying students from different schools. There are other entry-to-practice programs like Columbia’s; Yale and Penn have a formal one, and Vanderbilt and Emory offer you the option to design your own.</p>
<p>So no, you can’t take courses at Columbia’s SON while you are at Barnard. (Also, as a note, the SON is on the medical center campus by 168th St, not on the main campus across the street from Barnard.)</p>
<p>You have two options with nursing. One, you can go the traditional route and go to a four-year school of nursing BSN program, like Bing’s. If you are already in the nursing program and you don’t have to apply in your junior year, then you’ve already cleared a huge hurdle. After your 4 years of undergrad you’ll have a BSN; you can take the exams and become an RN, then start work as a floor nurse in a hospital or elsewhere. Afterwards you can do an MSN part-time if you want to.</p>
<p>Two, you can get a bachelor’s degree in something else at a liberal arts college like Barnard (or anywhere), and then do a second bachelor’s in nursing. You can do an accelerated 14-18-month program at a school that offers them, and that would give you the BSN and qualify you to work as a floor nurse. These programs are pretty competitive, especially at public colleges. Or you can do an entry-to-practice BS/MS program like Columbia’s, Yale’s, or Penn’s. That will take you ~3 years after undergrad, but you will have an MSN and licensure to practice as an advanced practice nurse.</p>
<p>If you KNOW that you want to be a nurse, and you’re equally as excited about attending Binghamton as you are Barnard, I would go to Bing in a heartbeat. You’ll get what you want in less time; all the resources and classes are already set up for you to major in nursing there. And in four years, and less expense, you’ll be ready to be a nurse. If you go the Barnard route you will have to spend another year and a half in school trying to get that nursing degree - and that’s assuming that you get into an ABSN or BS/MS program in your senior year at Barnard. You’ll also have to cross-register elsewhere to take the anatomy and physiology classes required to get into most ABSN or BS/MS programs (and also nutrition. Some also may require lifespan developmental psychology and I’m not sure our department has one of those.)</p>
<p>If you really, really, really badly want a liberal arts education at a SLAC and going to Barnard is like, your DREAM, so much so that you don’t mind doing the extra work - not to mention paying the extra money - to get an ABSN afterwards…then you could go to Barnard. But you should think carefully about it.</p>
<p>And if the point of the LAC is you just want to “learn stuff”, if you can do an MSN part-time afterwards, you can possibly also take classes afterwards, in areas of interest. Over the years I’ve taken a number of courses in areas that interested me, just for fun.</p>
<p>Hey! I hope you don’t mind me asking, but what gpa and SAT score did you have? I’m going to be a senior and I really want to get into bing! i know I’m eligible for EOP. Thanks in advance :)</p>