<p>What is it like? Is it any easier than Moshowitz’s class?</p>
<p>Can’t imagine it’ll be harder. Are you a Columbia person (curious how you’d get out of C2501)?</p>
<p>It’s a lot easier, from what I’ve heard. But apparently if you’re a columbia student and you take bio at barnard, it doesn’t really count towards your premed requirements. I don’t know. Sounded shady to me. </p>
<p>I’d take Mosho’s class though: it made me cry, but I learnt a lot. In retrospect, it taught me to study effectively, and when I wasn’t stressed out it was kinda fun.</p>
<p>C2002, I haven’t taken any bio so far, so I’m not sure. I definitely didn’t place out of any. But I do think bio at Barnard might serve my purposes a bit better. I’m heading more toward veterinary medicine than allopathic. Plus I have heard over and over that Moshowitz’s class is generally a nightmare.</p>
<p>“Plus I have heard over and over that Moshowitz’s class is generally a nightmare.”</p>
<p>It’s tough, but doable. It requires consistent work, if you’re like me–I take a while to wrap my head around certain concepts sometimes. But I knew kids who would study for the midterm the night before, and still do really well.</p>
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<p>If you can get where you need to be w/o taking Moshowitz’s class, then go for it. You’ll pass, but the question is how hard you want to work to study to do well on exams that essentially require a niche skill set that is particular to that one class.</p>
<p>Niche skill set?</p>
<p>I beg to differ on this one…I think a lot of students who go into Mosho’s class are used to learning by rote–especially a subject like biology. Mosho drags you out of that and forces you to apply what you learn in class to different scenarios. I don’t think her class requires a niche skillset as much as a different way of thinking–one that we all get around to eventually.</p>
<p>I think a lot of kids end up studying really hard for the class because they’re not sure how to handle the new approach. As I mentioned earlier, there were a lot of kids who figured out the system, and didn’t need to study until a couple of days before the midterms/final. I was not one of them :D</p>
<p>I agree that lots of these biology/premed kids are used to learning by rote, but as an engineer, most of your exams will require you to use analytical and problem-solving skills and apply what you’ve learned in class to different scenarios. Moshowitz’s class isn’t somehow special because you can’t memorize your way through it. It differs from other “thinking” courses in that a Moshowitz exam mainly tests how much you bothered to master the niche skills from the problem sets / practice exams. In most engineering classes, you get an A on the exam if you understand the material well and have good smarts and analytical skills; it’s not a question of figuring out how to answer particular questions that get repeatedly tested. As you say, there’s a system in her class and it’s all about figuring out the system.</p>
<p>^^Ohhh you were in SEAS? I didn’t know that.</p>
<p>Makes sense now 
The engineers didn’t have such a bad time.</p>