<p>I’m a fan and always have been, but I know there are plenty who aren’t.</p>
<p>However, this really is the end of an era. 902 wins and he just calls it quits. His son is taking over the Texas Tech coaching duties.</p>
<p>I still have a t-shirt from when IU (my alma mater) booted him that reads “Hoosier Daddy NOW”- The Day IU Basketball Died</p>
<p>GoodKnight, General.</p>
<p>More likely he threw the baton across the court, deliberatley trying to earn a technical foul because he didn’t like the ref’s last call!</p>
<p>And game film would reveal that he was right about the ref’s call…</p>
<p>Good riddance.</p>
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<p>But not about the baton.</p>
<p>Not a fan. A guy over at ESPN said it best. He’s a self-styled disciplinarian without self discipline. A guy who demanded loyalty and never gave it. Who preached team over individual then quit on his team 2 games after getting to his 900-win achievement. A great coach with too many faults. </p>
<p>He threw a vase at a secretary, breaking it on the wall behind her. That, alone, is the act of somebody who I can and will never respect. </p>
<p>But I still like YOU, MOWC :)</p>
<p>This says it best.</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.cornnation.com/storyonly/2008/2/5/15720/07606[/url]”>http://www.cornnation.com/storyonly/2008/2/5/15720/07606</a></p>
<p>He graduated his players and almost all of them have retained a life long loyalty to him and to each other, Knight returned that loyalty to them.</p>
<p>I bet he raised more money for the library at Indiana University than any other member of the staff or factually save those whose job is was to raise money for the library.</p>
<p>The money he raised for Texas Tech is beyond compare. I was at some fund-raisers in Dallas where people literally (and I mean RICH people) dumped out their wallets into collection buckets and signed big pledge cards.</p>
<p>It isn’t fair (I would think the people on this board would know this by now) to believe everything the press says. It is no secret that Bobby had a bad relationship with the press. He had issues- big issues- and did some bad things. I think the good outweighed the bad and there are a lot of student/athletes and benefactors of his quiet generosity (funny how the press skips that part) who would agree.</p>
<p>It also isn’t fair to say he walked out on his team. If he left now, it is because this was the right time to transition for the team and the program. I promise you that. This gives his son time to coach the rest of the season and is the right thing to do for recruiting.</p>
<p>I prefer to be a fan of people who don’t have so much bad to outweigh.</p>
<p>Here is just one example of why Bobby Knight is a jerk who should have been fired a long time ago. Warning. It contains a lot of bad language and of course it accurately reflects a horrible person – Bobby Knight.</p>
<p><a href=“http://youtube.com/watch?v=Yw7KijRfU-c&feature=related[/url]”>http://youtube.com/watch?v=Yw7KijRfU-c&feature=related</a></p>
<p>I guess you were the expert on the Duke lacrosse players, too, razorsharp!
YouTube doesn’t exactly capture the total picture, does it?</p>
<p>I am not sure how the Duke lacrosse case relates to Bobby Knight. It would seem to be a stange analogy. </p>
<p>The youtube piece is in Knight’s own words and is an example of the abuse he put his players through. Youtube also has the tv spot where Knight throws a chair onto the basketball court. He reminded me of a spoiled little child who did not get what he wanted. Knight’s career has been a continuous example of poor sportsmanship. </p>
<p>BTW and FWIW, I was right from the very beginning on the mistreatment suffered by the Duke lacrosse players. If collegemom had not deleted that original thread, my early posts would have been among the minority of posters who supported the players’ due process rights.</p>
<p>He was a bore, but at least he didn’t cheat like other NCAA coaches.</p>
<p>I’ve read a number of discussions about this, and the argument is being made that Knight’s improper actions should be overlooked or minimized because of the positive results he achieved: in winning games, teaching basketball skills, and in getting his students to graduate. I find this attitude odd, when there are so many role models available who get positive results without resorting to this kind of behavior. Is it a sports loyalty thing?</p>
<p>It’s a matter of his players (probably 99.9% of them) being incredibly positive about their experiences as a member of Knight’s teams. They ALL report valuing what they learned and don’t seem to complain about his alleged mistreatment of them. Most (not all) of the “famous” incidents are distortions by the press, according to the players and witnesses.</p>
<p>Yes, he is an odd man and has done some boarish things. He is not a coach for entitled, undisciplined players. He never cheated in recruiting or coaching. </p>
<p>Would you rather have a coach who cheats (and if you don’t think there was cheating at Duke, think again) and whose players don’t graduate and have little hope of a future or one who kicked a chair 35 years ago?</p>
<p>He has done more “good works” than any coach in the country. He doesn’t advertise them. He has also done wonders for Texas Tech.</p>
<p>It is clearly time for him to step down. He has earned it. I love the “he should have been fired a long time ago” and in the next breath “he’s walking out on his team”. Which way do you want it? Remove this evil influence or make him stay past his prime and expose more young people to his alleged abuse?</p>
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What in the world are you talking about? The Duke lacrosse scandle involved a stripper making false accusations against players. It did not involve cheating. </p>
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No poster said this or suggested this. </p>
<p>I would have preferred if Bobby Knight had done all of his “good things” and also behaved like an adult and not like a bully. If his son pulls the same routine as the father did, I hope someone knocks the daylights out of him.</p>
<p>Duke basketball, Duke basketball recruiting, Duke basketball academic standards</p>
<p>Everyone would have preferred that Bobby Knight not have done some of the things he did. I guess the fact that no one “knocked the daylights” out of Bobby might indicate that those closely involved didn’t see it quite the same way the press and experts such as yourself do.
I don’t think you need to stoop so low as to disparage his son before he even has his first game as head coach.</p>
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How did I disparage his son? Did you not read the word “If”?</p>
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You said Duke lacrosse first. Your original comment didn’t make any sense then and I am not sure how disparaing other sports at Duke bolsters your argument about Knight. Two wrongs have never made a right.</p>
<p>I notice you didn’t respond to the real points I made, but chose to focus on Duke. I referred to the lacrosse incident ONLY to point out what can happen if people dig in without having the facts. This is a thread about BASKETBALL, otherwise.
What about the incredible satisfaction level of Knight’s players?
What about the integrity he has shown in every aspect of his coaching and recruiting?
The majority of the IU students were not happy to see him go, and had such a large rally in protest that police had to be there. So where does all your expertise come from? Have you seen him speak? Are you an IU or Tech alum or former athlete? Has your kid taken a course from him or played on his team? I think I know the answer. Your entire opinion has been formed by what you have read in the newspapers and seen on YouTube.</p>