<p>I agree about kennedy- I mean he didn’t do anything that worthy- if he wasn’t shot, he wouldn’t be considered anything special, politically speaking. :p</p>
<p>I think he’s remembered more because he was very good looking.</p>
<p>And he was the first Catholic!</p>
<p>When is there going to be an openly athiest president?</p>
<p>DO NOT DISS HAMILTON.
the man was brillant, without him there would not be america.</p>
<p>I will be the first athiest president.</p>
<p>Also, Kennedy would have signed the civil rights act and a lot of other civil rights legislation. That alone would have made us remember him if he wasnt gatted.</p>
<p>1964 was kind of a mixed act. Although it did outlaw discrimination, it went too far by making discrimination in private matters illegal.</p>
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<p>Huh? If Washington had listened to Jefferson over Hamilton there would have been an America. What are you talking about???</p>
<p>Haha, this thread reminds me of my government teacher, who despises Hamilton and has a bizarre love affair with John Adams. He got a set of mini-posters with all the Founding Fathers on them. He put all of them up in a nice neat row…except for Hamilton, who was put up upside-down about one foot away from the floor.</p>
<p>To refute your claims as both idiotic and illogical I will take each one at a time:</p>
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<li><p>Ben Franklin is on the $100</p></li>
<li><p>Federalist Party died out after the War of 1812 when they tried to leave the country and join Canada. It was called the Hartford Convention. Hamilton died in 1804 and had nothing to do with it.</p></li>
<li><p>The entire US economy is essentially built on the Hamilton’s economic policies. Almost all of which were left in place by Jefferson. Oh and we do still have a national bank. Ever hear of the Federal Reserve? Oh and your little part about him doing unconstitutional things, I would add that according to what Jefferson believed the US could not buy Louisiana. As for FDR and unconstitutional just ask those Japanese descendents who were put into interment camps.</p></li>
<li><p>He fired his shot in the air which is believed to be due to the hair trigger. And besides what the hell does that have to do with anything. There is no way that you would consider Muhammad Ali a pu$$y but he chose not to go to war and kill people.</p></li>
<li><p>That also is irrelevant. The founding fathers all thought to nation was stupid. This is the reason why they designed such things as an electoral college and the non-direct election of Senators.</p></li>
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<p>josephr115-My comment was referring directly to the Constitutional COnvention. Hamilton was probably one of the strongest advocates of holding a consitutional convention to revise/rewrite the Articles of Confederation. He really pushed for a new and more federalized constitution, the one that has been successful enough to sustain this country for the past 218 years.
I honestly think if he didn’t push so hard for the philedelphia convention as well as the national bank, America would not have lasted this long.
Then again, Hamilton is my favorite founder so I’m inherently biased towards his contributions.</p>
<p>Isn’t Jefferson on the $2 bill?</p>
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<p>Ok firstly, if you had taken the time to read one of my previous comments (I think it was on page 2) you would have seen that my opinion of Franklin had already been discussed.</p>
<p>Secondly, the Federalist party did in fact begin to collapse after Jefferson became president in 1800. To your credit I will say “begin” to collapse, because it is true that the party did not entirely fall apart just then. The point is that in 1800 the Federalists lost all Executive and Presidential power, and as a party, they did not get any legislation passed. True, John Marshall did support Federalist ideals, but he was only able to slightly modify laws that the Republican Congress had passed.</p>
<p>The Hartford Convention merely portrays a bit of lingering Federalist resistance to the ruling party. They never actually tried to leave the country, there were calls for it, but they decided not to pursue the thought. Instead, they called for a series of constitutional amendments which never got out of Congress. The Hartford Convention is not a symbol of power as a party, but merely a last stand. Sort of like hitting a home run when your team is down 10-0 – it doesnt really do anything.</p>
<p>The federalists actually continued to express their ideals as a minority for over a century, but as I said, they began to collapse in 1800.</p>
<p>Thirdly - The US economy is only built on what Hamilton was able to get through Congress, after some modifications. If Hamilton had had his way with the country, there would not have been a Bill of Rights!!!
Yes, Hamilton was against the Bill, it was only when the Constitution would not get ratified without it that he reluctantly accepted it.</p>
<p>Jefferson believed the US could not buy Louisiana??? He bought it didnt he??? It is true that he wondered if the constitution allowed for such a purchase to be made, but he found it to be ok under his executive power to make treaties. It was a new government, he was trying to follow the constitution as it was written. He followed the rules, not like Hamilton who would gladly throw the rule book out of the window.</p>
<p>To FDR’s credit I believe the good he did for the country greatly outweighs the mistakes he made. </p>
<p>It is true that Hamilton’s shot was fired into the air, but he did it on purpose! <a href=“Alexander Hamilton - Wikipedia”>Alexander Hamilton - Wikipedia;
What a pious man…</p>
<p>You think if someone was trying to kill Muhammed Ali he wouldnt fight back???</p>
<p>Before you call someone an idiot, make sure you have your facts straight.</p>