Brain-dead girl; family won't let go

[sevmom]

<p>The uncle seems to be speaking for the family but not sure what, if any , legal standing an uncle would have before a court in regard to a niece?</p>

[Cardinal_Fang]

<p>How does the uncle have a legal interest in this case? Was he one of Jahi’s legal guardians?</p>

<p>[xpost with sevmom]</p>

[Flossy]

<p>He’s the one who called the first news conference at the hospital and he is the lawyer’s first contact with the family. I don’t know if that means anything at all.
But that’s how it happened.</p>

[rockvillemom]

<p>The uncle disgusts me. He seems to be determined to perpetuate this drama. The stepfsther, on the other hand, is rarely heard from. The uncle is the one on social media, giving interviews, etc. And I am sure that when the inevitable lawsuits are filed, he wil be at the forefront of that activity as well.</p>

[BunsenBurner]

<p>The mother needs CLOSURE which will only come when she accepts the fact that her baby is gone. This entire spectacle fueled by the nutcases such as the lawyer and Schavio folk is not helping to accomplish that, because if enough doubt is raised, even a highly logical, educated person will start believing in miracles!</p>

[VaBluebird]

<p>Random thoughts.
We should all pray that this does not set some sort of precedent.</p>

<p>I wonder if some of the staff members of the hospital will require psychological therapy after taking care of her body for three weeks.</p>

<p>I can’t even imagine the horror of being an EMT and doing your job only to find you’ve been working on a corpse that is 3 weeks gone.</p>

<p>I’m telling you, as a parent, I can’t imagine their heartbreak but they have also done great harm to people whose life work is to be caregivers.</p>

<p>Like others have said, you can’t make this stuff up. It’s beyond any normal reasoning to not understand brain death. I’m quite sure it ws explained to them time and again, that she was being supported by artificial means only and there no more life sustaining brain activity. Why on earth could they not accept that? I feel so bad for everyone involved, on all levels. </p>

<p>I’m absolutely horrified to think of them at home with a body now probably decomposing at double time and how unthinkable it would be if it starts becoming noticeable to them.</p>

[jym626]

<p><a href=“http://crossmap.christianpost.com/news/brain-dead-girl-jahi-mcmath-updates-father-jonathan-morris-joins-debate-faith-is-to-help-in-dealing-death-not-to-determine-death-video-8281[/url]”>http://crossmap.christianpost.com/news/brain-dead-girl-jahi-mcmath-updates-father-jonathan-morris-joins-debate-faith-is-to-help-in-dealing-death-not-to-determine-death-video-8281&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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“What I am going to say may be a kind of offensive to some people. It’s not for religion or faith to determine somebody is alive or dead. Science tells us that,” said Father Jonathan Morris. </p>

<p>“When a scientific consensus says that somebody is dead, faith and religion is a tool to help you to deal with death instead of trying to bring somebody back to life or suggesting that you keep them on life support even though the person is dead,” explained Father Morris…
“But I think pastors or priests should step up and help them to deal with the fact that when someone has died the soul is no longer there,” said Morris. “We have to trust science. Not to trust just any doctor nor hospital, but to look at the consensus of the medical advice.”

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<p>Bingo. Too bad he isn’t at the Catholic facility where she reportedly was taken.</p>

[rockvillemom]

<p>[Jahi</a> McMath receiving nutrients, family says - SFGate](<a href=“http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Jahi-McMath-is-safe-receiving-nutrients-5118175.php]Jahi”>http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Jahi-McMath-is-safe-receiving-nutrients-5118175.php)</p>

<p>How can she be receiving nutrients? Given the above posts about the deterioration of her body, how is this even possible?</p>

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“We’re very relieved that she got safely to where she needed to be because we were all very afraid that given the fragile condition as she wasted away at Children’s that she might not make it,” Dolan said.</p>

<p>He said Jahi is being stabilized so that she can be given a feeding tube, and that she was already receiving potassium intravenously.

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[actingmt]

<p>Another missing father in all of this is her real father. He was around at the very beginning but disappeared. And, yeah, I was hoping someone else would be the first to mention that the uncle is awful. And, he doesn’t come across as a dummy, either.</p>

[BunsenBurner]

<p>"…she was already receiving potassium intravenously"</p>

<p>Good lord. To keep a dead body for so long, the staff at Children’s was giving it more than just potassium.</p>

[VaBluebird]

<p>Kluge, so basically everyone really can live forever. Forget brain death. Just hook everyone up to machines and on we go, marching to the beat of the vent into the future.
SMH.
We think healthcare is expensive now! Just wait.</p>

[rockvillemom]

<p>Omari Sealey’s twitter:</p>

<p><a href=“https://mobile.twitter.com/_iamOMARI[/url]”>https://mobile.twitter.com/_iamOMARI&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>He seems to be relishing the spotlight - bantering with reporters - congratulating himself for getting her moved. I wonder what her biological father thinks of the sideshow that has developed here. I feel sympathy for the mother, no matter how misguided she is, but the uncle and attorney appear to have their own agenda.</p>

[sevmom]

<p>His latest tweet: Not interested in getting my followers up, just worried about getting them dollars up. (assume he’s talking about the fund the family set up).
He has only 200 some followers but he has over 8000 tweets, including one where he says - Your uncle is a BEAST.
It really is unbelievable .</p>

[dodgersmom]

<p>Okay, this has nothing to do with anything, but [Dr</a>. Flori’s declaration](<a href=“http://media.nbcbayarea.com/documents/HeidiFlori.pdf]Dr”>http://media.nbcbayarea.com/documents/HeidiFlori.pdf) was beautifully drafted, unlike many of the other documents filed in this case. Whatever junior associate worked on it with her did an excellent job - it’s clear, persuasive, and concise.</p>

[actingmt]

<p>Uncle is on Piers Morgan right now. He’s been in front of a camera all day. All day.</p>

[Nrdsb4]

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I know you said her small intestine and bowel were likely infarcted, Nrdsb4, but not being a medical person I didn’t know what that entailed. But it means she’s pooping out her guts.

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<p>A nurse from the nursing forum I visit explains the January brief already mentioned and quoted:</p>

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How long before she starts to show signs of decomposition?</p>

<p>It is already happening. As I described in my first post to this thread, she is sloughing her bowel. That means the lining of her bowel has died - become necrotic - and is falling apart, expelling from her every time she is repositioned. The changes noted in her respiratory secretions also point to pulmonary necrosis - death of the lung tissue - and this decomposing tissue is being manually removed from her lungs with a suction catheter. She cannot cough it up herself. As her muscles and organs die and become necrotic, her serum potassium will climb as potassium is released from the dying cells. Without functioning kidneys she will not be able to maintain her potassium in the compatible-with-life range and eventually the high levels of it in her blood will stop her heart. While her kidneys are still producing urine, it’s not “quality” urine, it’s largely just water. Hence the vasopressin infusion. It’s main purpose for her would be to control urine output so that the workload of replacing fluid losses is realistic. This is just such a nightmare. I’m praying for the people providing care to her body now.

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<p>Early on I spoke of the body beginning to rot from the inside and starting to smell. The lung secretions as described in the brief are particularly awful.</p>

[sevmom]

<p>The uncle and the lawyer are both smart guys and it is really hard for me to believe that they truly believe Jahi is alive, given all of the evidence they have had access to. Here is the uncle’s LinkedIn info. I wonder what his employer thinks about all of this. [Omari</a> Sealey | LinkedIn](<a href=“http://■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■/in/omarisealey]Omari”>http://■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■/in/omarisealey)
I’m pretty sure this is him but have seen the last name spelled differently in news reports.</p>

[dodgersmom]

<p>So why, if her potassium level is already rising dangerously as the result of necrosis (post #1416), would they be administering IV potassium (post #1408)?</p>

[actingmt]

<p>And while were asking questions just exactly who could they possibly be? I mean, I realize there are all kinds of quacks and kooks out there but this is over the top.</p>

[BunsenBurner]

<p>An update:</p>

<p>[Jahi</a> McMath: Brain-dead teen’s body may be too deteriorated to save after successful move from hospital - San Jose Mercury News](<a href=“Jahi McMath: Family says brain-dead teen’s body may be too deteriorated to save – The Mercury News”>Jahi McMath: Family says brain-dead teen’s body may be too deteriorated to save – The Mercury News)</p>