<p>I think the silence is the first positive ray of light we have seen.</p>
<p>I am glad the hospital was able to move Jahi. The staff has each other for counsel now and can move forward.</p>
<p>" the heartwrenching admission of a resident who gave a pain drenched cancer patient who was imminently terminal an overdose of morphine. It was hard to read, but clearly he really did it for the right reason, to ease that person’s pain and passing."</p>
<p>When my grandmother was in hospice, we were given a bottle of liquid morphine and more or less told to use our judgment to keep her pain free. We all understood that enough to stop her pain might also be enough to slow her breathing. I believe this isn’t too unusual.</p>
<p>I agree, sax. We don’t need to know where Jahi’s body is. We don’t need to know every little thing her doctors are doing to her body. That information is useless to us; we already know she is dead, and we know the inevitable outcome.</p>
<p>Soon her heart will stop, there will be some announcement, and the lawsuits will be filed.</p>
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No, it isn’t unusual. Interestingly, some people, depending on their illness, experience what is called air hunger toward the end, and morphine is used to help with that, too.</p>
<p>[Jesse</a> loses his battle with brain tumor | Deseret News](<a href=“http://www.deseretnews.com/article/595106792/Jesse-loses-his-battle-with-brain-tumor.html]Jesse”>http://www.deseretnews.com/article/595106792/Jesse-loses-his-battle-with-brain-tumor.html)</p>
<p>Very similar case. If you poke around internet you can find an entry from Jesse’s father which indicates that Koochins clashed the doctors prior to their son’s brain death. This includes not following doctors recommendations regarding initial treatment plan.</p>
<p>" the heartwrenching admission of a resident who gave a pain drenched cancer patient who was imminently terminal an overdose of morphine. It was hard to read, but clearly he really did it for the right reason, to ease that person’s pain and passing."</p>
<p>When my grandmother was in hospice, we were given a bottle of liquid morphine and more or less told to use our judgment to keep her pain free. We all understood that enough to stop her pain might also be enough to slow her breathing. I believe this isn’t too unusual.>>>>>>>>>>>>></p>
<p>Sorry, I was not clear. He have it to the patient IV, a big dose. Guaranteed to end things then and there.</p>
<p>When I was searching for news articles about Jesse Koochin, a lot of garbage touting miraculous cancer cures popped up. His parents did not believe in modern medicine’s approach and instead decided to seek alternative treatments for the boy (e.g., taking him to Mexico for some sort of naturopathic treatment -?). Sad, sad story. When he died of his brain tumor, parents refused to accept the brain death diagnosis and via a court order got to take him to their house. They had some naturopath or something like that lined up to treat the dead boy, but the place declined to provide treatment because they said that the boy was too ill and there was nothing that they could help with (smart move!).</p>
<p>*I bet her mom won’t even be able to recall many of these horrible days. I just think she has been in shock. </p>
<p>Anyway, that’s what I want to believe.
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<p>I agree. I think much of this craziness has been from shock, guilt, denial…and a desperate hope that someone/something can “hit the rewind” button.</p>
<p>[Friends</a> Believe Jahi McMath, “Quiet Leader,” is Alive | NBC Bay Area](<a href=“Friends Believe Jahi McMath, “Quiet Leader,” is Alive – NBC Bay Area”>Friends Believe Jahi McMath, “Quiet Leader,” is Alive – NBC Bay Area)</p>
<p>Really?</p>
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<p>Pathetic, IMNSHO.</p>
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<p>Milsap, McMath, Johnson, Winkfield, and on…how many people are involved here, anyway? I read in the NYT that Omari whastisname the publicity hound was in fact her stepfather, not her uncle.</p>
<p>From the [url=<a href=“Friends Believe Jahi McMath, “Quiet Leader,” is Alive – NBC Bay Area”>Friends Believe Jahi McMath, “Quiet Leader,” is Alive – NBC Bay Area]article[/url</a>] that Flossy linked to:</p>
<p>*“The school told us that she’s not officially dead yet,” said Dymond Allen, one of Jahi’s friends.</p>
<p>The academy’s chief operating officer Lisa Blair said she has tried to honor Jahi’s family’s wishes by telling students that their classmate may still be alive, even though doctors say she is legally and clinically dead.*</p>
<p>Words fail me.</p>
<p>The family history is a tad confusing, yes.
But what blew me away, apart from the obvious, is that her 10-year old brother is being interviewed on the evening news. How can this even be happening?
Words fail me, too.</p>
<p>Jabria Milsap, the valedictorian, appears to be the same briazaire who had the rather vulgar twitter account earlier. Wow.</p>
<p>This is a public K-8 school, according to their website. This is why the principal did it:</p>
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<p>Yeah, then they put the entire school in “Team Jahi” shirts and took pictures. So much for informed decisions and opposing perspectives.</p>
<p>This whole public perception part of this is really kooky. There are no Jahi “opponents”. But, people think there are and this school certainly isn’t helping.
Stranger and stranger. And, more to come.</p>
<p>We know who Jahi’s opponents are-those evil doctors at Children’s who want to kill her. :-(</p>
<p>(sarcasm)</p>
<p>Do they have any science teachers at that school?</p>
<p>One thing I did note in the article that is linked above: the coroner’s spokesperson said she is out of state at a Catholic facility. Given the recently released statement about Jahi by the Catholic group that she is indeed dead, I am surprised by this. Also, as a Catholic, this goes against my understanding of Catholic beliefs about the end of life and what is required in situations like this. I am beyond belief actually.</p>
<p>Some of that comes from having been at the hospital when my 11 year old nephew died unexpectedly. I won’t go into the entire story, but as we were waiting for him to stabilize so he could be airlifted to a Children’s hospital (about 50 miles away) the Catholic priest we called discussed the options with my parents and myself as my nephew’s parents stood by their son’s side. My father, an “old school Chicago” Catholic asked the question as to what needed to be done for his grandson given the likelihood of at least some brain damage. It wasn’t an easy conversation for my parents or myself, and it would not have been our decision to make, but we were there to help provide answers to my sister and BIL if the time came. </p>
<p>The principal telling the students that she is alive? There are no words to express my utter disbelief with this. I understand respecting the family, but… I won’t even get into a public school official expressing religious beliefs in this way. It’s infuriating. </p>
<p>As an aside, I’m tired of reading in legitimate news sources that this was a routine surgery. I’m tempted to comment on every article I read that misstates this fact.</p>
<p>rrah - The last comment from the lawyer was that he couldn’t say whether or not she was in a facility at all. You are not alone in your disbelief.</p>