Brain-dead girl; family won't let go

<p>There’s now a Wiki article on Jahi which seems fairly factual. I’m waiting for the inevitable People Magazine feature.</p>

<p>LOL. The Wiki article has changed a few times. Sometimes she’s deceased, sometimes not. People keep editing. That said, I would love to see a story with a proper ending. Undisclosed location is just not cutting it. My apologies.</p>

<p>Saw this on another site:</p>

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<p>I don’t want to assume that the immediate family has any untoward motives here, and I don’t think there is any reason to assume that they do.</p>

<p>It is a common religious belief that G-d can work miracles, but that people also have to help - give Him the opportunity to act. If the family believes that, then disconnecting Jahi from life support is giving up, whereas keeping her on it, even if they believe that there is no medical way that she could recover without divine intervention, is paving the way for a possible miracle. </p>

<p>They’re taking this belief a lot farther than would be conventional in any mainstream religion I know of. But combine this with mistrust of the hospital, lack of education, charlatan doctors giving eccentric reasons for hope, random supporters chiming in with their own supposed stories of people waking up from “brain death,” and you can see where a family might hold on, however irrationally, to hope for reasons other than wanting a payout.</p>

<p>I believe Jahi is dead. But I also feel intuitively that there is some difference between a warm, breathing (albeit artificially) body and, to return to Pizzagirl’s example, late Uncle Bernie stuffed and propped up in the living room. Brain dead is dead, but it isn’t, perhaps, quite the same kind of dead. I don’t think that warrants a change in policy, but I do think that it might go some ways to explaining why the family is acting as it is without speculating that they are money-grubbing opportunists preparing for a big settlement.</p>

<p>^^ this. The mother wants her daughter back, and she believes there is a chance. She is wrong that there is a chance, but I can’t blame a mother for wanting to bring her daughter back to life.</p>

<p>Unfortunately she is surrounded by charlatans and quacks.</p>

<p>Early in the case the uncle stated that the difference between dead and alive was that med mal is worth “chump change”. His words.</p>

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<p>I agree. Regardless of the motives of extended family, I think Mom loves her child desperately, and people around her are encouraging and enabling her denial. Of course she is going to hold on to hope until the very end.
It’s the people around her for whom I feel the most disgust; people I believe are exploiting a mother’s love and who either do or should know better. Also, the large numbers of crazies who keep posting on their support pages with all their stories of people who have woken up from “brain death” when they actually mean coma or other brain injuries. Most of all I have contempt for Dr. Byrne, who certainly DOES know the difference between a situation of hope and one of certain death. It’s sick and sad beyond belief.</p>

<p>However venal the uncle is, it’s the mother who is authorizing this “medical care.” Poor woman. To me, losing a child seems so unbelievably awful that I find it difficult to criticize any response by the grieving mother.</p>

<p><a href=“The White House”>The White House;

<p>From the petition, and I’m quoting an entire sentence here:</p>

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<p>If I were putting up a national petition, I’d proofread it first. Just sayin’.</p>

<p>Signatures needed by February 03, 2014 to reach goal of 100,000 … 99,928
Total signatures on this petition … 72</p>

<p>Meanwhile, crickets…</p>

<p>Actingmt, I don’t understand why you are expecting daily bulletins. We already know what’s happening. Like Francisco Franco, she’s still dead. Some day soon, her heart will stop beating. There’s nothing more for us to know.</p>

<p>Yes, well they are still claiming she’s still alive and continuing to solicit donations for her care. Thus, I would like to know where exactly this “care” is taking place and what exactly it involves. Guess, I’m just nosy. Also, the recent update from alleged cousin “HoodRat” was graphically…not good. And, now all their personal and previously very active social media is on lockdown. It’s interesting.</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.thaddeuspope.com/images/01-06-14_notice_of_status_conference.pdf[/url]”>http://www.thaddeuspope.com/images/01-06-14_notice_of_status_conference.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Flossy, what are we supposed to conclude from that old legal document from before Jahi’s mother took her body? I took a look at it, and can’t understand why you posted it.</p>

<p>Does the April case management conference still happen? They are being notably and uncharacteristically quiet.</p>

<p>That case is C 13 05993 SBA, where Dolan was asking for CHO to keep Jahi’s body on the ventilator and start tube feedings. It’s moot now, since Jahi’s body is no longer at CHO.</p>

<p>A direct link to the posting by Jahi’s cousin, Hoodrat, mentioned by Actingmt in post #1915. Cover your eyes when reading the original post, as it is not PG13. I do not recall seeing the “cousin’s” description of Jahi posted within this thread. The cousin made this post on 1/7/14 to a trauma surgeon’s blog.</p>

<p>From the “cousin,” Hoodrat:[Stories</a> from the trauma bay: Jahi McMath FAQ](<a href=“Stories from the trauma bay: Jahi McMath FAQ”>Stories from the trauma bay: Jahi McMath FAQ)</p>

<p>As Actingmt stated, not sure if this post on a blog is really by a relative or not; however, when you look at Hoodrat’s location, etc, he/she could be a friend of the family or relative.</p>

<p>CF - You could very well be right. But Judge Sandra Brown was hearing the civil rights arguments and that ended with no announced decision. That was the marathon court session that they all quietly exited without any announcement, saying talks continue.</p>

<p>And yeah, HoodRat. Oh my.</p>