***BS/MD Interview Notification for Class of 2013***

<p>@bluesky It was posted previously or in another thread that 5 of the 10 graduating GAP students this year did not move on to the medical school because they did not have the 3.7 GPA.</p>

<p>I was at Pitt about 3 weeks ago and was provided information that Pitt med accepted 30 Pitt UGs total, but only 17 matriculated.</p>

<p>@bluesky- the GPA requirement at Pitt is really high. BU is a great med school.</p>

<p>Accepted to Pitt Med!!! Now, Drexel vs. Pitt! 3.5 GPA, 29 MCAT vs. 3.75 GPA (at an insanely competitive school), No MCAT. thoughts?</p>

<p>@butterfli, pitt has a much better medical school than Drexel, so I’d go with Pitt if I were you</p>

<p>I know Drexel states it is not a guarantee of admission to med school, but is Pitt a guarantee?</p>

<p>I got in too! And neither of them guarantees it. No BS/MD guarantees a seat, each is actually a conditional acceptance because they all have guidelines that have to be met.</p>

<p>Congrats Pitt admittees!</p>

<p>These are considered guaranteed if you meet the requirements.</p>

<p>@internut
Congratulations. Can you please post your stats so it will help next year applicants?
Thanks.</p>

<p>No, but I heard that Drexel specifically states that even if the requirements are met, it is not a guaranteed acceptance. Something along those lines, I didn’t apply to any of the Drexel programs.</p>

<p>What is the verbage?</p>

<p>As I said, I don’t know because I didn’t apply to Drexel programs. Looking back on what Stony Brook says, “Final acceptance to the School of Medicine is guaranteed as long as you meet the aforementioned criteria, and remain a candidate for a Bachelor of Engineering degree from the College of Engineering and Applied Sciences.” The use the word “guaranteed” there if you meet the requirements. I heard that some programs say there is not a guarantee. Idk…</p>

<p>“While in the undergraduate portion of the program, students must maintain at least a 3.5 GPA in all coursework, including all BCPM classes (all biological sciences, chemistry, physics, and math), without repeating a course and with no grade less than a C. The MCAT is required prior to matriculation into the College of Medicine. Students must receive a minimum MCAT score of 9 or better in the verbal section; 10 or better in the physical and biological science sections; a total minimum score of 31 (with no individual score less than 8); and a letter score of P or higher in the MCAT writing section. Please note that a new version of the MCAT will be introduced in 2015 and will have different sections that include biochemistry, behaviorial science, and social science questions. Acceptance into the College of Medicine is not guaranteed.”</p>

<p>[Accelerated</a> Degree Program Application Process | Undergraduate Admissions | Drexel University](<a href=“http://www.drexel.edu/undergrad/apply/freshmen-instructions/accelerated/]Accelerated”>BA/BS+MD Early Assurance Program)</p>

<p>I am not sure if they are covering themselves by putting this disclaimer at the end because there are too many specifics in the conditions. All it takes is one C-.</p>

<p>Whatever it is, it seems a lot more menacing in tone than the Stony Brook statement. I didn’t realize the Drexel programs required the MCAT. </p>

<p>Did anybody else besides Shoumik95 and I get into Stony Brook? Is there another Stony Brook thread that I am missing? What about a Brooklyn BA/MD thread? It seems like nobody is talking about either of these programs on CC…</p>

<p>Yeah, basically they are just covering themselves. It’s a liability thing I suppose, if we get into trouble or something. It’s just different wording. And a C- in Pitt’s GAP program will definitely lower that GPA below a 3.5 a year. I mean, if A is 4.0 and A- is around 3.66…</p>

<p>@blusky, I heard the same complain about BU SMED that folks are talking about Pitt. Significant number of BS/MD students can’t make it to med school because BU is one of the 4 infamous schools in northeast for severe grade deflation. BU plays the same game like many other schools with BS/MD. If you are admitted to the program, there is almost no money. So people pay full cost. And then if they don’t make it to med school (BU avg GPA is ~3.0), you have earned a Bachelor degree from an average UG university by paying quarter million dollar and graduated with a mediocre GPA that does not help much for grad school. I am sure many make it but the point is there are known risk with BU.</p>

<p>The other grade deflation schools in northeast are Princeton, MIT, BU, and RPI</p>

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<p>Most schools have policies that allow you to repeat a course in order to average out a grade. What Drexel is saying is that you can not repeat a class and can not have a grade less than a C which means one strike could get you out of the program (think organic chemistry). </p>

<p>So one needs to read Pitt’s specific policy outside of 3.75 if there are additional caveats.</p>

<p>Suddenly there poped up wealth of info here, please vet out your source, it’s so late in the game now for more confusions.

  1. Exactly what % of BU SMED did not make to med school due to GPA? Please call them to verify. Their UG grade deflation is well known, but keep in mind this is a highly sought-after med school for its location.
  2. Pitts, is that 5 out 10 did not make it really true? sounds high, do they have remedy to improve GPA before kicking out. If they did accept 30 kids last year, this implies GAP program has been expanded.
    3)Drexel, I would guess that last murky disclaimer covers disciplinary action, please call their office.</p>

<p>awesomeopossum mentioned this a year or two ago about someone he/she knew about losing GAP admission due to GPA but I really would not believe it is 50%. If there are questions one should contact the office and verify.</p>

<p>I would suggest the same for any other program. If in doubt, contact the office of the school to verify or request additional info. It is a big commitment and people should do the due diligence.</p>

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<p>I will have to refute some of your points. If you look at previous threads in the past years on BU SMED, students in the program likened a 3.2 GPA at BU to a 3.5 GPA at any other school. Further, the 3.2 GPA requirement is at the end of 3 years, so it is not as stressful to maintain. Past SMED students said the average BU SMED student ends up with a 3.6-3.7 GPA (source: <a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/multiple-degree-programs/1313030-bu-smed.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/multiple-degree-programs/1313030-bu-smed.html&lt;/a&gt;). </p>

<p>Further, it is not true that “significant number of BS/MD students can’t make it to med school.” I heard that at most 1 student might not meet the requirements, but this is rare. Thus, I don’t believe that the grade deflation is as dire of a problem as it is made out to be. </p>

<p>I do agree, however, with your comments on the cost of the program. It is unfortunate that the financial aid is severely lacking at BU.</p>

<p>@ TheKing101, as I said I have heard it. I am aware of someone who gave up Columbia to attend BU SMED, din’t make it to the end and claim there are others who had the same experience. I did not apply to BU and my info is not official or verified.</p>