<p>@NUHPME: congrats on getting into both!! You’re fab! I would personally choose NU. From what I hear, students in both are extremely close and the quality of eduction at both places is amazing. That said, Chicago has many more opportunities than Brown, and Feinberg is one of the most prestigious medical schools in the country whereas Alpert is not as well regarded (though absolutely amazing as well). Also, HPME is accelerated whereas brown is not, which is another factor to consider. Good luck!!</p>
<p>@datard if you know you want to be a doctor go with HPME in a heart beat. If you are not sure well then it comes down to Princeton UG or NU UG with an MD? I think the answer is still obvious. NU is an excellent school with top notch recruiters coming there if you decide to do something else. Princeton has a reputation of being an excellent undergraduate school but it is not a research institution - which you may want to consider if that’s important to you.</p>
<p>@NUHPME, I would definitely choose Northwestern over Brown. Both are top tier medical schools but Feinberg School of Medicine is regarded a lot more, among practicing physicians, than Brown and certainly there are many more high quality clinically and scientifically significant publications coming out of Feinberg than from Alpert. </p>
<p>@datard, if you are definite that you want to be a physician and nothing else at this point in time, the choice is obvious: Northwestern. Yes, going to Princeton is nice but many things can change in four years when you are doing you undergraduate. Due to some unforeseen circumstance, you may “loose steam” or have a change in your priority to make you start wondering whether it would be worthwhile going into medicine. It is more likely you would not have such doubt if your career path has already all been mapped out for you, i.e. you are in a combined program, than if you have to go through the hassle and start applying to tons of medical schools at that time.</p>
<p>@datard i don’t really know what advice to give you but i can give you some perspective. HPME is a top-tier program with the quality and prestige of both the undergrad and med school. i’m sure you’ll have advantages there over other students, in addition to the benefits of no mcat, only having to maintain a required gpa, and basically guaranteed admission to Feinberg which means no med school applications! instead of building your resume with things you may not be interested in, you can really focus on what you want to do. there are many combined programs, that while time-saving and guaranteed, can’t offer the same prestige as an ivy but i believe at Northwestern, that desire for the ‘name’ school is satisfied. on the other hand, Princeton is a school many people can only dream of attending. there is probably an incomparable number of advantages you can receive at a college where there are connections all over the world. (you probably know more about these more than i do) however, i also know that if you attend such a competitive, cut-throat institution such as Princeton, you may not shine as much as you did at your high school because now there are 1,000 people who are very, very talented. i know several people at the school who have not been accepted into med school their first try because of their low gpa due to grade deflation. but at the same time, people who are going straight into the work force normally find little difficulty with finding employment concerning finance, engineering, or computers. </p>
<p>like IMGDAD said, it really depends on how confident you are on becoming a physician. </p>
<p>I find it very entertaining that many of us just CANNOT let go of the ULTIMATE prestige scenario? NWU vs PLME vs Harvard! Wow…just get over it…Princeton vs Stanford? STOP IT PLEASE…</p>
<p>@dumich some of these are real concerns for some and it’s not so easy for some to let go of the prestige/sticker etc They need to work it out and work through their info. This is their life they are talking about - it’s important to be patient. :)</p>
<p>yes, but let the dialogue be about the people: their disposition, their political temperament,their enthusiasm for r for social justice, quality of the professional community and their mutual respect! Some like to sit around and EMBRACE their theoretical SUPERIORITY, more expensive laboratory, and whose giving the keynote speech at the NIH Stem Cell Scaffold Debate!</p>
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<p>These are combined programs and you go and do your undergrad like any other student wherever you go. So I don’t understand why you would need camaraderie from other fellow admittees like you are you in some elite club or something. You attend an undergrad school for your own enjoyment and pick and choose the school you like better, not to hang out with a bunch of PLME or HPME admits and figure out whether you like them or not when there are another 1500 or 2000 freshmen on campus that you can be friends with and another 5000 other undergrads on campus.</p>
<p>I suggest it is IRRELEVANT who else is in a guaranteed program since everyone has a spot. It only matters which school you are willing to donate almost a 10th of your life to.</p>
<p>I dont need to be in an elite club ANY MORE than either BROWN or NORTHWESTERN enables by virtue of the process, but once there…the quality of life and experience is largely a reflection of quality relationships with students, faculty, administration. It is very obvious to ME and many others, that BROWN, embraces that experience and IS the BROWN experience. Other schools seem to be less focused in that regard…just personal taste for me. Camaraderie doesn’t need to hold my hand and feed me lunch but only foster pleasantry. I found Northwestern LESS than civil sometimes throughout the entirety of almost 3 separate days there…personal opinion…some like VANILLA, some prefer CHOCOLATE. Not looking to offend or suggest that I expect to sit around the campfire eating TWINKIES and singing "row your boat’! Just expressing OPINION that others have expressed, although with less enthusiasm…</p>
<p>dumich, you seem really passionate about how Brown has a better experience than Northwestern. I got admitted to both, but I didn’t get that same feel at HPME as you did, so could you maybe elaborate some personal experiences that influenced your opinion??</p>
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<p>Name onething you liked at NU and name onething disliked at Brown.</p>
<p>Northwestern did appear to be a more DIVERSE campus, town, community…more of what I expected a college town to be AND the campus is magnificent. I loved it…Truly, my initial undergrad interview was almost HOSTILE, so I honestly think I got negative people vibes from day one and I myself became a bit defensive. I loved the lakeside locale/Evanston and the mix of new and old architecture. Again, the students on the tours with me, appeared to be on edge AND very concerned about “getting in” and stats…I did not get that vibe at Brown. No doubt NWU is a GREAT school, with great opportunity and reputation…other than the VIBE and INTERVIEW, it was great AND pretty much exactly what I had been looking for(except COLD)! Brown/Providence is considerably SMALLER town/campus rather than the open spacious grounds of NWU. NWU seemed to have a more RAH-RAH energy, probably a function of BIG 10 athletics and size…BROWN pretty quiet on that front! Just felt the administration at BROWN embraced the students pursuit of education rather than DICTATE the process and announcing their extraordinary essence…could just be ME!</p>
<p>Hi dumich-
That’s great. Thank your your perspective. I got PLME, but not HPME. I am from the West Coast and scheduled to attend ADOCH on April 23-24. I did have a chance to discuss with PLME students via emails. Generally, they seem very happy with Brown PLME. If you are interested in the details, PM me. I am leaning toward Brown and would love to discuss further. Thanks…</p>
<p>I am NOT condemning NWU…just saying, for me, BROWN presented something special…yes, the intellectual camaraderie/quirkiness struck me as well as an absence of EGOS…I make NO APOLOGIES as to wanting fellowship/camaraderie for 8 to 12 years! MANY of the extraordinary thresholds in science are a function of comfortable collaboration(ego is good too, by the way…unless one drowns in it)</p>
<p>OK just got contacted by another applicant. What are the chances? Looks like at least 4 out of the 7 who interviewed on the same day as my S were accepted by Albany. Weird.</p>
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<p>In the engineering information session I attended, the presenter said the undergrad interview should be ignored. </p>
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<p>I am a bit lost on the tours. What are these tours? Was it when you randomly visited the school or when you went for the interview at HPME? Why would PLME applicants have any pressure anyway. They apply and they are done. HPME admittees had to jump through three separate hoops - prescreening to get an app, qualify for an interview and get admitted while PLME app is like YES/NO.</p>
<p>What is this administration you keep talking about? The day after you are admitted, other than trying to get to join, the admissions people have zero input. </p>
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<p>Unless you get married to someone in the program, the 12 years will not be common thing. I also don’t believe many at PLME stick around but I am not sure how many choose to go to other medical schools instead of sticking around. You might want to ask the question. It used to be an open process at one time where people were allowed to apply elsewhere but about 2-3 years ago, they banned applying elsewhere and one loses their seat and needs to reapply if someone chooses to apply to other schools. They did not need to ban the choice unless the numbers were considerable.</p>
<p>Great consistency when a rep from a University tells you to DISREGARD an interview from the SAME university! What on earth is that about? I have no ill will towards NWU ,“texaspg”, but the above post does not offer any PLUS to NWU. I am over this discussion and will move on to a positive agenda…I should not have felt the need to defend my opinion. Best wishes!</p>
<p>Best wishes to you dumich. I am never going to college again and so I will be fine!</p>
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<p>is there anyone on this forum for RPI/AMC from Michigan ?</p>
<p>I received interview notification from Howard University’s 6 year BS/MD program today! Did anyone else receive notification from this program?</p>