Business etiquette and integrity

<p>this is one of those “am I the only one” threads. Recently interviewed for a position where I know a few people in the company. Was told that after round one some candidates would be called back for second interviews. Today someone who didn’t know I applied mentioned that the position was filled. Since when do they not at least email to let you know? In my family business we absolutely let candidates we have interviewed know when a decision has been made. Am I old fashioned to expect that courtesy?<br>
It just seems like people aren’t paying their bills, think it is okay to lie about business matters and have lost the basic courtesies. Is this a sign of the economic times?</p>

<p>In my experience, about half the time you don’t hear back from companies that decide not to offer you a job.</p>

<p>I have had this experience several years ago. I think it’s wrong, but what can you do?</p>

<p>Mine too Marian but in this case where I have business dealings with the company I had expected a word before I heard it from someone else.</p>

<p>I agree not calling was slightly discourteous, though it sure wasn’t lying based on the Op.
They said some would be called back for second interviews. They didn’t say they’d be calling those who don’t get a second interview; and they didn’t say they’d let everyone know when the position was filled. Based on the Op they did just what they said they’d do- they just didn’t do any extra.
If I am car shopping, I don’t call on a salesman that I didn’t buy from unless I have specifically told him I will let him know of my decision either way. Am I discourteous in that?
Your family business sounds like they handle things far better than the norm. Well done!</p>

<p>Courtesy and politeness have gone out the window when it comes to job hunting. Most companies IME do not acknowledge receiving resumes, do not tell you if you have been rejected, won’t return phone calls, etc. Companies sometimes get 100’s of resumes for every job they post, HR staffs have been cut to the bone, and it’s just not considered something that it is important to spend any resources on. </p>

<p>Many companies have become “serial interviewers” because they can never pull the trigger and make a decision to hire someone - they are waiting for the “perfect” person (who doesn’t exist), there’s always some acronym missing, or the req is here today/gone tomorrow/back next week, etc. It’s a mess.</p>

<p>Don’t take it personally, and expect it at every company you interview at.</p>

<p>This is probably not the case, but timing can be an issue. “Filled” may mean that they have a candidate and have a verbal agreement, but there are some conditions (eg, drug testing) that the candidate needs to fulfill before the offer is considered final. In that case, the company will likely hold off from notifying candidates.</p>

<p>But sometimes they just don’t call back. Cuts have hit HR just like every other department in companies recently, and they have to cut out something. With a large volume of candidates for every position, they don’t get back to everyone any more.</p>

<p>I think that’s always been true. I’m still waiting to hear back about some summer associate positions I applied for in 1977.</p>

<p>Well I feel slightly better about this situation this morning so I should explain. This is a very small company (like 12 employees). There is no HR, no drug screen, nada. I did not expect an acknowledgement of receipt of my resume. I know that they received lots of applicants because I know people within the company. I did expect that since they evidently filled the position I would get a phone call or email. In fact, I attended a social event on Sunday and the interviewers were present. They were very friendly and there was no indication that a decision had been made. (I don’t expect them to bring it up at a social event however I did expect an email before I heard it from someone “on the street.”<br>
I definitely did not say they lied to me and I wouldn’t consider the car shopping analogy the same unless of course say I went to a friend and shopped for a car and then chose elsewhere. In that case I would definitely call the person and tell them “as much as I would have loved to do business with you, I chose another deal.”
Understand that I live in a small community and the businesses are very incestuous. Everyone knows almost everyone is certain industries…</p>

<p>Many folks just don’t like to deliver bad news. I can see why they wouldn’t want to call you and have an uncomfortable conversation.
Why didn’t you drop a quick email after the social encounter and ask if there was any movement on the position - seems like a natural point for you to make the inquiry without being too aggressive.</p>

<p>BINGO flyaround: “Many folks just don’t like to deliver bad news.”</p>

<p>I have a small company (six employees). I very rarely hire, all of my current employees have been with me for over 18 years. I do remember that seven years ago, when I was doing a search for a customer service rep, I interviewed four candidates and called them all back with the good or bad news. One of the candidates that I turned down was so angry and nasty that she made me a little skittish about ever calling anyone back again.
But I still do think that I owe someone the courtesy of a “thanks for giving us a try” call.</p>

<p>flyaround I actually did drop a quick email on friday before the social event.just a standard “thanks for your time” and I feel I can bring a lot to the position thing…
musicamusica: I hear you. I’ve been on the delivering end too. Anyway, thanks all. I will get over it. Guess I am meant to stay self employed for now.</p>

<p>well ebeee has added some circumstances and conditions(post 9) that weren’t in the original post. Naturally, pertinent info left out of a post seeking comments may get comments that don’t quite fit. I’m sure alll here tried their best based on info given.</p>

<p>I don’t think this is a sign of the economic times. Just like DonnaL, there were potential employers that haven’t gotten back to me yet from around 1980.</p>

<p>I’m still waiting for a phone call from that boy I went on a date with in 1971 who assured me he would be giving me a call…</p>

<p>Winner!!!</p>

<p>**I think that’s always been true. I’m still waiting to hear back about some summer associate positions I applied for in 1977. **</p>

<p>that’s funny!</p>

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<p>I think this is why a lot of rejections are delivered by e-mail rather than over the phone.</p>