<p>I think WashU’s internship data is definitely wrong. They might have meant to put 1340 instead of 2340. </p>
<p>2340 per week is insane…That’s about 10,000/ month or $120,000 per year. No interns are paid that much. Definitely some sort of error. Either that…or they only took into account one guy who broke records at WashU for internship salary -___-"</p>
<p>“UVA might be slightly high. It’s not really that hard to get into…pretty easy actually, compared to Berkeley/Tepper/Stern/Ross.”</p>
<p>UVa is very hard to get in from out of state. Even in state it’s harder then Michigan. At the end of your second year, you apply for McIntire, the admission standard is getting more and more difficult, admitted students have an average GPA of 3.5-3.6, it’s not easy at all. Yes Ross and Haas are both very hard to get in as well. dont know about tepper.</p>
<p>I hear that UVA is extremeley hard to get into out state, almost impossible, but I have heard from uva residents that it is not that difficult to get in instate for UVA, they compared it to the difficulty of instate students getting into rutgers (i’m from nj).</p>
<p>but uva in-state kids have better stats then rutger in-state kids, i bet. :)</p>
<p>i love new jersey though. cool people there.</p>
<p>I agree dylin88 but that is what it said. it is insane</p>
<p>well put Globalist. I see the same thing Alexandre. I see your posts on the various boards and they are always biased towards Michigan. Quite frankly, I don’t see how Michigan is more well rounded and complete. You term it as slightly better, but I don’t see it as better. If you look at the ranking comprehensively, Michigan lost out big points in critical categories. If you compare Stern and Michigan just on critical areas, UMich doesn’t look too good. overall I would say that Stern, Ross and Haas are level, one is not slightly better than the other. each has its relative strenghts and weakness.</p>
<p>well I’m not too sure about that, UVAs bschool is a billion times better than rutgers and overall its a much better school, but their both state schools and their student bodies are made mostly of the kids from the state. That means the majority of students from each school went to each states respective high schools, and I have heard New Jersey high schools are among the best in the US. I am not sure about the quality of UVA high schools is though. But i do 100% support the fact that UVA as a whole is an incredible school, much better than rutgers.</p>
<p>Notre Dame is ranked pretty high, I never knew their program was that good since US News has them pretty low. Anyways i was wondering how does Notre Dame do in terms of Wall Street placement?</p>
<p>ND does very well, extremely amazing alum support.</p>
<p>ever heard of Northern Virginia? (the small part of Va. next to D.C.)
some calls it NOVA, there are some of the best public high schools in the nation with insane average SATs…
definitely one of the most educated geographical areas in U.S. I walk down my street, stickers on cars include Chicago, UVa, Columbia, Duke, Syracuse, Georgetown… my area isnt the richest either.</p>
<p>People, this ranking list is based on job placement and the quality of education, not prestige, and what the employers think of their employees. In the real world, there is more than just SAT, GPA, and prestige. Seriously, if I was an employer I wouldn’t pay a Harvard grad a dollar if he or she does nothing all day and brags that he or she went to Harvard. I would gradly hire someone else who came from a community college and is ambitious.</p>
<p>Well I dont think we can really discuss the quality of highschools in new jersey vs. virginia based on SAT averages in small parts of a state and car stickers. Their are probably tons of areas in both new jersey and virginia with huge SAT scores; including “NOVA” and almost every highschool around my area. I was just speaking of what I have heard are the reasons why property values and demand to live in the new york new jersey area are so high is because of the first rate schools systems and prime location. In any case i dont think either of us are gurus on the quality of high schools anywhere. What I am still interested in is how well Notre Dame does on wall street, could you elaborate some more on this? Especially compared to all the powerhouses we always discuss in these forums like wharton, uva, mich, nyu, kelley etc…(and please can people respond who actually no what they are talking about such as untitled or calcruzer, I dont want to hear from people who have no idea what they are talking about and just try to make their school sound better by belittling schools who have proven they are worthy for the street, but just dont have the “prestige” of some.)</p>
<p>I posted this in the other section. It seems like a lot of people are confused about where the employers opinions were factored in. They aren’t considered in the letter grade job placement ranking, they were a separate ranking all toghether.</p>
<p>You can see how they were factored in here: <a href=“Businessweek - Bloomberg”>Businessweek - Bloomberg;
<p>This is also flawed though… Wharton was ranked #17 by recruiters. Why? Because they surveyed 2000 of them and Wharton students will not consider applying or accepting offers from 90% of them. If you surveyed the top 25 employers of each school and based an individual school ranking on that, it would be a more accurate indication of recruiter satisfaction (although no more relative) than what is there now. </p>
<p>Bottom line: if your school doesn’t send grads to company X, company X is not going to like your school.</p>
<p>“all the powerhouses we always discuss in these forums like wharton, uva, mich, nyu, kelley etc”</p>
<p>Finally Kelley is mentioned in the same sentence with the usual powers.</p>
<p>From a press release sent to us at BU:</p>
<p>“The overall ranking is based on surveys of more than 100,000 students who major in business, as well as interviews with nearly 2,000 corporate recruiters, and includes information regarding starting salaries, which schools send the most students on to top MBA programs, faculty-student ratios, and average SAT scores. The Academic Quality ranking is based on five equally-weighted measures: average SAT scores, full-time faculty-student ratio, average class size, the percentage of business majors with internships, and the hours students spend every week on schoolwork.”</p>
<p>“Finally Kelley is mentioned in the same sentence with the usual powers.”</p>
<p>laughing. :)</p>
<p>“laughing. :)”</p>
<p>Are u being sarcastic?</p>
<p>EDIT: 500th post…time to celebrate</p>
<p>about Notre Dame:</p>
<p>the average SAT in its bschool is 1410, that is pretty damn high, one of the highest in all undergraduate business schools. SAT is a test of intelligence to some extent, people who score high on SAT think fast and can learn fast. Wall St. wants these kinds of people, ibanking is an extremely elitist profession because the job requirement-- high intelligence, is very vague. banks want the brightest pool.</p>
<p>look at their internships:
Deloitte 54 (that’s kinda sick)
PwC: 20
E&Y:19
KPMG: 17
Goldman SachsL 10
Morgan Stanley 7…etc</p>
<p>GS and MS are two of the most sought companies. even whartonites fight for these positions. I’d say in term of placement, Notre Dame does just as well as the other powerhouses. why? because it IS a powerhouse itself.</p>
<p>i was really laughing, i don’t know why.</p>
<p>i must say i have been very impressed by IU’s performance in term of placement. i’m thinking about starting an investment banking workshop at UVa…lol</p>
<p>IU’s workshop is great. But just think Wharton is like a big investment banking workshop.</p>
<p>OMG WhartonAlum, your school is already ranked #1. What more do you want?</p>