Buying A New (or Used) Car Experience During Supply Chain Shortages

One of the features of adaptive headlights is supposed to solve this problem. It adjusts headlight intensity based on surrounding and lights from approaching cars.

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Yes, “supposed” to correct the problem. The Bimmer forum(s) has a few threads about misaligned or malfunctioning adaptive headlights. Most don’t know or care to adjust or fix them.

https://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory/29000-average-car-buyers-aghast-82049072

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I’m screwed then. We intend to buy something in the May-ish time frame for D18 and I’m praying for “rain” (many more cars available).

I had to go to the Toyota dealership for a few parts last week and the lot was filled with used cars, many from other marques. Ugh.

If you considered a RAV4, why did you exclude the hybrid? Compared to the regular gas engine, the hybrid is more powerful and their hybrids are their most reliable vehicles.

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Any possibility of considering a NEW car for D? Perversely, it seems that there are potentially better deals possible with new cars vs. used. It’s simply nuts right now. Avoid certain makes like Kia which are tacking on a surcharge to MSRP for new cars.

I am sure that this too shall pass, but it’s not clear when. All the best!

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When a vehicle the size of a Highlander or Sienna can get 35-36 mpg, anything under 30 is a non-starter for us. The Ford Maverick hybrid pickup has 37 combined mpg.

Absolutely, but on the inexpensive end of the spectrum. She wants something sporty, raised (slightly) suspension and on the smaller side. The makes we’re (me actually) considering are:

  1. Toyota
  2. Mazda
  3. Honda
  4. Subaru (maybe)
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Have you looked at the Corolla Cross? Looks a bit like the RAV4, but is smaller. I think you’re in California - if so, there are some dealers that won’t charge over MSRP on anything if you’re finding that to be a problem.

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I’ve not heard of that model of Toyota. Interesting! Thank you.

My local Toyota dealer only had a new Camry and a used 2021 CHR in the showroom last week when I bought some parts.

And yes, I’m located in the Silicon Valley area.

I’ve read that Walnut Creek Toyota and One Toyota in Oakland don’t sell over MSRP. Longo Toyota in SoCal gets the most vehicles of anyone and doesn’t go over MSRP. Probably waiting lists at those places, but worth checking out. Unfortunately the hybrid version won’t be out until later this year.

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Because no Toyota RAV4 Hybrids were available. Also, that Toyota dealer was & is adding a $15,000 market price adjustment (surcharge) to Toyota RAV4 Prime.

The price ($42,000) for the used Toyota RAV4 with 31,000 miles was more than the MSRP for a new Toyota Rav4 ($27,000 to $37,500)–but no new RAV4s were in stock.

Not really concerned about MPG; more concerned about safety, reliability, & power. So far only the Subaru Outback Onyx XT (turbocharged engine) and the Subaru Outback Wilderness (also a turbocharged engine) have shown adequate pep & power among the vehicles that I have test driven (Toyota RAV4, Mazda, Honda CR-V & other Subaru models). Subaru Crosstrek had adequete power, but the engine was too noisy. Plan to test drive the new 2022 Subaru Forester Wilderness today if still available, but it is the same engine as that in the Subaru Crosstrek Limited so not expecting to buy.

Was unable to test drive the 2022 Subaru Forester Wilderness as it sold within hours of the dealership opening for business on Monday after a holiday weekend.

Test drove a used Ford Expedition with a twin turbo V-6 engine. The engine was fine showing adequate power & acceleration.

Test drove a 2021 Ford Edge with a rotary gear selector. The gear selector / transmission safety feature failed during 3 of 4 tests during the test drive. Otherwise, the Ford Edge was comfortable & quiet with an appropriate engine. An even more powerful engine is available at higher cost.

What 3 of 4 tests did the gear selector on the Edge fail?

The Expedition is about two sizes larger than the Edge.

On this post…I think at the end, you mean Subaru…not Mazda models…right?

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The same safety function. The salesperson had us stop while in drive & open the door. The transmission is supposed to self reset from drive to park. It failed 3 of 4 attempts.

Multiple Ford sales people expressed disappoint with the rotary gear selector & shared that potential buyers also disliked the rotary gear selector.

Yes, the Expedition is much larger than the Ford Edge.

@thumper1: Thank you. Yes, I meant Subaru Crosstrek, not Mazda.

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Did you simply open and close the door while fully stopped?

In our car it’ll go to park from D if you stop and shut off the engine. If you just open the door while fully stopped with engine on it’ll stay in D, as that’s a scenario where you might be dropping someone curbside which I personally do every once in a while.

However if you try to drive off with a door wide open, it’ll slam into park and stop the car; this only happens at very low speed - I wouldn’t expect opening a door while at full speed to do anything. This been inadvertently verified by me and others on the brand forums - usually happens while we’re doing some work on the car and want to just shift it a few feet and don’t bother to close the door all the way.

This experienced Ford salesperson told us to do it with the engine running (while we all remained in the SUV). Worked the first time, but failed on the next three attempts.

https://usnews.com/news/best-states/michigan/articles/2022-01-05/edmunds-new-cars-and-missing-features-what-you-can-do

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Wow…I am feeling luckier and luckier with how my car buying experience! I was driving a 2008 Rav4, and it had really hit the end of it’s life. I have a former coworker whose family owns Honda and Toyota dealerships and he is the director of the Toyota dealership. I reached out to him (not even knowing at the time that there was such a shortage - I was apparently living in a bubble not paying attention!) and asked what new Rav4s he had in stock. He explained the shortage and that he didn’t have any right then, but said he would reach out when he got some. A few weeks later he texted me with a new Rav that was coming in that day. I said I would come in that evening after work to look at it, so he put my name on it. I got there, test drove it, and bought it (well, financed it!) at MSRP. He said that since it had arrived that morning, he had 4 other people come in and ask about it. Without that connection, I probably still wouldn’t have a new car!

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