Buying the Next House

<p>Building 19 is a hoot. They do have some nice bargains there but you have to be willing to ferret through the stuff without help from anyone who works there. I actually love the place but it isn’t the cleanest place on the planet. </p>

<p>VH there is one in or near Walpole MA which might be a fun day trip!</p>

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No one wanted my grandmother’s rug - it was filthy and didn’t look like much.</p>

<p>So I took it, and had it cleaned. Holy cow, what a difference.</p>

<p>It turns out it is a Persian Sarouk, made in 1940. It appraised for $6000. It is spectacular.</p>

<p>Never heard of Building 19. Sounds like something war-related. </p>

<p>On the other hand, here it is. My, my. Too far for me, and we’re not even in the house yet, but – my, my. Sounds interesting! [Building</a> 19 Home Page](<a href=“http://www.building19.com/events/hmocM092912/hmocM092912.htm]Building”>http://www.building19.com/events/hmocM092912/hmocM092912.htm)</p>

<p>VH, building 19 has a bunch of stores. The one I went to was right near Patriots Place in Massachusetts. Just a drive up 95…ok, so that’s a lousy drive. Building 19 is sort of like a junky version of Ocean State Job Lot, but with a ton of rugs. </p>

<p>Seriously look for a sale at Kaoud!</p>

<p>Yeah, it looks like the closest Building 19 might be like two hours away. </p>

<p>I’ll go to Route 7 and to ABC Carpet. I have to be in the City on 11/20, and that will be a good time to look at ABC.</p>

<p>Note that the rugs mentioned in that Building 19 ad all seem to be Indian or Chinese, not the real thing.</p>

<p>Update:</p>

<p>My attorney is p!$$!ng me off, as are the sellers of our new house.</p>

<p>Our closing is 10/22. The house is unoccupied. We asked if we could move in early, and the seller said we could if we were willing to forgo a $1,000 credit they were giving us for some repairs. We said OK. They asked when we wanted to move in. We said 10/12. They said No, that’s too early.</p>

<p>OK – then what about a day during the week of 10/15?</p>

<p>We proposed this a week ago. We haven’t gotten a straight answer.</p>

<p>Our realtor called me and said it needed to be a lawyer-to-lawyer conversation. The seller’s realtor is dealing with five adult children from the estate, and they won’t agree. Our realtor thought that our lawyer could come to an agreement with their lawyer, who would dictate to the five adult children what the deal was going to be.</p>

<p>Our lawyer did nothing last week about this. Then I emailed her very directly on Friday afternoon that she and the seller’s attorney need to come to an agreement on this. And she had the nerve to take today, Columbus Day, off.</p>

<p>So we might be moving in next Monday. Or, we might not be moving in until 10/22. </p>

<p>(In which case I have to find a place for DH, me, and the two dogs for several nights.)</p>

<p>Grrrrrrr.</p>

<p>It will all work out, but it’s just darn annoying that it’s so close and we still don’t know when we’re moving!!!</p>

<p>Moving in early sounds like a mistake, even if you have to stay at a hotel for a few weeks. Close early and move in then, maybe…but it seems like you are asking for trouble going through the effort of moving in early. Sounds like this deal might not even be settled. If you are moved in, they have you over a barrel and can try to refuse to do this or that, and ask for other conditions. They’ll know you don’t want to move again. Can you imagine moving all your stuff in, and the deal falling through? How can the adult children not have agreed about the estate, yet you have a contract? Honestly, this sounds like trouble. Of course, maybe if you move in early they will be more pressured to complete the deal, I suppose. Yuck, what stress!</p>

<p>Sounds like your sellers, or at least some of them, are feeling like they aren’t getting as much $$ out of the deal as they “ought” to, and therefore want to make you pay through the nose for something that really only benefits them, if they look at it rationally. The earlier you close, the less they pay in the way of taxes and carrying costs. If this was the house they grew up in, it probably complicates their feelings.</p>

<p>Very annoying for you, though. Inaction on the part of the lawyer would really tick me off.</p>

<p>Well, duh. Crossposted with busdriver. You aren’t actually CLOSING earlier? That would make me nervous. I think busdriver’s points are well taken.</p>

<p>What busdriver says.
The flip side is the risk to the seller if a problem ensues. If you were to move in and the deal went sour for some reason, they would have to go through serious hassles to evict you. And what if something broke that they feel you caused during the move in, but you feel was a problem that happened to occur just by happenstance, but they still own the house and you feel it was due to natural aging of the home and that they are responsible for fixing before you close. What if the hose to the icemaker broke and flooded the house? Does their homeowners cover rental insurance, as you would in essence be a “renter”? When we sold my dads house we were STRONGLY advised to NOT let the buyers move in early, even though they wanted to. We did not let them move in. They and their dog stayed in a motel.</p>

<p>I’ve been on the other side of this as a seller, and I took my attorney’s advice and did not allow it. Fortunately, it worked out for the buyer (I can’t remember the cause of the delay, but it was on her side), but if she had had to spend the weekend in a hotel, that’s what would have had to happen. The risks of a deal falling through, and the insurance liability, make it really untenable for a seller to allow a buyer to move in before closing.</p>

<p>At this point I just want to know. I really don’t care anymore if we get in there early or not; I just want to know.</p>

<p>Hang in there, VH! We are in the same boat, we know we are moving very soon but still don’t know WHEN-- and every day that goes by that we still don’t know is making us nuts. We’ve started packing and we think we’re probably moving sometime next week, but we still don’t actually really have any idea. Very stressful trying to orchestrate something as big as a move, so close to the moving date, without actually knowing when it is. I have my fingers crossed that you will have your answers soon!</p>

<p>Thanks, Ema. Yeah, I am realizing that the stress is getting to me.</p>

<p>We got the seller of our new house to agree to close on Friday, Oct 19. We think the buyer of our old house will agree to close on Thursday, Oct 18 – just one day early. In which case, we’ll only be wandering the streets with a house full of furniture and two dogs for one night, not several. Much better.</p>

<p>We should know tomorrow.</p>

<p>Maybe the buyers of your current house will let you rent back for a day.</p>

<p>No, I’m OK staying in a hotel for a few nights. We’ll probably get out of here on 10/16 or so anyway, so we can get the house cleaned on 10/17.</p>

<p>VH…it really does sound like things moving along. Did the sellers agree to fixing the things…dishwasher, radon issue, furnace?</p>

<p>They did fix those things. We’ll see when we do the walk-through. I’m not sure they fixed the garbage disposal, however, but in their thinking maybe the $1000 is to fix (or replace) that as well as other things.</p>

<p>VH, I’m sorry you probably posted this upstream, but what are the logistics of the actual move? Do you have movers coming to box all of your things and place them in storage until move-in day? Are you having your new home professionally cleaned the day after your walk through? Are you unpacking or the movers?</p>

<p>Ah, Tutu, that’s been part of the challenge.</p>

<p>We have packed ourselves, except for the furniture. Everything is boxed up and in the garage. (Well, almost everything.) We’ve also arranged with movers to come on a date-to-be-determined (and they are fine with being flexible at this time of year) to load the truck. They will then leave the goods on the truck until unloading day. They charge us something for each overnight the stuff is on the truck.</p>

<p>And I’m having my cleaning lady come to my current house after the movers to make it all broom-clean.</p>

<p>As far as cleaning the new house, it’s not necessary. It has been vacant for two years and the sellers have had it painted, cleaned, and floors done. It’s in great shape. (Does need a new kitchen and bathrooms, and we’ll be doing those shortly.)</p>

<p>And we’ll be unpacking ourselves.</p>

<p>When we moved into our current house, it was a corporate relo, so the movers did everything – but we weren’t paying for it. This time, we’re very cost-conscious!</p>