Hmm still no pic of the perp on American media?
I’m at a conference and was out last night with other students and young people. As selfish as it is, all I could think when I turned on the news this morning is “that could’ve been us.”
There’s nothing to be said that I haven’t said before. I’m once again just numb to the deaths.
I still think the difference between now and WWII is that you only had WWII. Now these soldiers are doing multiple tours. There was a draft during the other wars so more of the populace had to participate in the sacrifice.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ian-david-long-identified-as-suspect-in-thousand-oaks-california-mass-shooting-today-live-updates-2018-11-08/ has a photo of the suspect.
Serial killers are caught more easily with modern forensics. Probably contributed to the reduction. But is it a game of whack-a-mole where they became mass shooters instead? I don’t think the HS students who are shooters would have started serial killing at the age where they commit their crimes. But maybe easier access to high capacity guns would have turned some past serial killers into mass murderers?
Watching Cody Coffman’s father’s grief is heart-wrenching.
Just watched that as well. I wish we could fix this.
Cal Lutheran was one of the schools my oldest and I visited and she applied (and was accepted) to. We know a current student and several former students. My heart goes out to everyone affected. I hate this culture of mass shootings.
I find it hard to believe that serial killers and mass shooters have any correlation, the psychologies seem so different. Serial killers often go on for years, while these people act out in small ways building up to one big event where most end up dead at the scene. As for the soldiers, the suicide rate of our current troops is a big indicator of the state of the situation.
I don’t offer this as an excuse. But PTSD is a huge problem for veterans of recent wars and “conflicts” (as some of them are officially known), and our country is doing a great disservice to veterans by not offering better post-service health care treatment.
D1 is working with vets suffering from PTSD at a VA hospital for her post-dissertation internship. I know she is working hard to do her part to help.
Thank you to your daughter, @Nrdsb4.
We live over an hour away, but my D knew one of the victims. So tragic!
According to the Ventura County Star “Thousand Oaks (CA) is one of the safest cities in the country…”
I live about 15 miles from T.O., as its affectionately called, and if mass shootings can happen here, it can happen anywhere in the country. Unfortunately, the “new normal” is that we as a society have reached a point where we can never be completely at ease amongst large gatherings of people, whether it’s at concerts, sporting events, schools, theaters, our churches/congregations, or night clubs & bars.
Having just attended a local candle light vigil last week for the victims of Pittsburgh and now this tragedy just a short drive away sickens me. I don’t know what the answer is but I think more kindness and tolerance for our fellow neighbors would be a start in the right direction…we must come together as a community to help stop this violence…
I am reminded of Bob Dylan’s song that goes "How many times . . . ". I can’t say anything political . . . so . . . With all due respect, I don’t even read or listen to this kind of news in detail. I just read how many people died and the location of shooting and then move on.
Live in LA, have friends who live in TO, and woke up to this horrible, horrible news. The sad thing is I know NOTHING will be done because of certain lobbyists who are already at work. At this point, we as a nation deserve what we get.
I think that mass slayings are culturally acceptable in the United States (kind of like drinking and driving is culturally acceptable), and they won’t stop until our culture changes.
The criteria for involuntary commitment need to be revised lower. All these shooters have been seriously mentally I’ll and like this guy, refused treatment.
What is your tolerance for commitment of folks who will not commit violence/those who will 10-1, 20-1, 50-1, 100-1?
Prediction of violence is a highly inexact science. At best, we can predict days or maybe hours, and even then, we’re mostly wrong.
In other words, how many people should we involuntarily commit to prevent one act of violence?