Comparing who is a UR/OR at CU and UCB base on the states population, one can conclude that UCB’s numbers are way out of whack compared to the states population. whereas CU is a lot more closely representative of the state with Hispanic’s having the largest disparity.
CU - Underrepresented
Asian
Native Hawaiian/Pacific Islander
Black/African American
Hispanic/Latino (21% vs 10%)
American Indian/Alaska Native
CU - Overrepresented
White (although we are only talking a 1% overrepresentation)
UCB - Underrepresented
Native Hawaiian/Pacific Islander
Black/African American
Hispanic/Latino (39% vs 10%)
American Indian/Alaska Native
White (38% vs 24%)
The immigration phenomenon described in #999 goes the opposite way for Hispanic or Latino people, who include a large number of immigrants and first generation kids of immigrants from Mexico, very few of whom have high educational attainment (something like 6% with BA/BS degrees, versus around 50% of Chinese immigrants, around 70% of Indian immigrants, and around 30% of the US non-immigrant population).
14%, not 10%, though that is still underrepresented for the reason given above.
Still if you compare to Harvard on a national scale (as they are much more of a national university), you can see that they come much closer to the national demographic, except for Hispanic which is again underrepresented. White is very close, with Native American, AA and Asian being overrepresented, essentially at the expense of Hispanic
Realizing this thread has gone off the rails a little bit, it goes back to what the people in CA thought they were going to get in relation with admittance to UCB and other UCs vs what they got in reality when they eliminated race from consideration.
Once the HS school year ends, I’m planning to log into my old Naviance account to see what acceptances at UCs looked like this year at my son’s old HS. They enter the data at the end of the year. I wonder if results are significantly different from previous years.
I’ve heard stories including a kid (planned engineering major) who everyone thought was strong but will be attending Riverside. But, there could have been an issue with his grades or essays that the rumor mill doesn’t know about.
@ynotgo…UC Riverside average student stats are 3.8 GPA, 27 ACT, 1190 SAT, with a 45% student acceptance rate (no walk in the park) and getting tougher every year at this fastest growing UC for a reason.
@Fisherman99, are these new stats that were recently released? (I thought the UCs generally didn’t update these numbers until August or so.) The 2017 acceptance rate was 57.4%, so if it’s fallen to 45% for this year’s seniors, that’s a huge drop.
Yes, they are new stats. More than half of prospective students will now get denied at UC Riverside. Will continue to get tougher every year and rapidly expand faster than all other UC locations. Not sure if all 2019 US News Ranks in yet (don’t see undergraduate) but the Anderson MBA program now at #89…up from #93 last year. Bump ups in most other graduate programs as well. Wonder how much longer it will take for UCR student population to reach projected 40,000 level?
What some of the parents that are bitter don’t understand is that every California resident student that applies to a UC with the minimum required GPA and test scores will be admitted to a UC it just may not be to the campus of choice.
I disagree with the view I’ve seen expressed on this thread that students go OOS or to some privates because they got rejected by the “good” UCs. That may be true for some, but from what I’ve seen, UCs have lost their luster for some CA families. The students I know apply to UCs and get in, but ultimately decide that they will have a better college experience elsewhere. That’s what happened to my sons. As others have noted, many OOS universities offer a great education along with the traditional college experience many students crave (sports teams, social activities, college town etc.). The UC “brand” is still strong for many, but in my small social group, UCs are being passed over for other universities.
@TTdd16…I actually called UCR admissions to try to verify the new 45% student acceptance rate. They are still working with some waitlists so haven’t officially released stats in a link yet. They were confident it would be 50 percent or lower but not official as of yet. Anxious to see those official stats!
@stardustmom – I agree, unfortunately. I’m also seeing this among my friends who live in other parts of the country. There was a time when their children – smart, accomplished, with options – would have applied to Cal or UCLA, but today they’re not. Many parents and students consider the UCs overcrowded and underfunded.“Diploma factory” is a term you hear occasionally. It’s distressing to those who love the system and want to see it thrive…
“Diploma factory”: what you call a large school you secretly know your child won’t get accepted to, so you just pretend you didn’t want them to go there anyway. This tale is as old as time, and twice as tired. =;
@CU123 as a long time resident of CA I don’t see this “funding crisis” that you constantly spew on this site. Sure there a some problems but i don’t think the average student has had a hardship, in fact the UC system will likely not raise tuition next year. And even if they raise it 3% as has been discussed, it’s a bargain for a top education.
For example, at UCLA annual tuition is around 13k which is a fraction of the cost of cross town rival USC at 50K per year. IMO, UC students are getting an excellent education for a very fair price.
@KTJordan78 I understand it’s difficult for some people to wrap their minds around this, but the UCs are just not considered that prestigious anymore for a number of people. None of the students in my son’s group of friends even mentioned wanting to apply to a UC, because the UCs do have the reputation of being overcrowded and underfunded. They’re not pretending that they don’t want to go there, they really don’t.