Cal's Academic Power Ranking

<p>A board moderator and University of Michigan alum decided to do an analysis of top research universities. I think we all know what academic powerhouse comes on top… ;)</p>

<p>Berkeley cannot be beat for academic breadth and depth.</p>

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/university-michigan-ann-arbor/1241939-university-michigans-academic-power-rating.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/university-michigan-ann-arbor/1241939-university-michigans-academic-power-rating.html&lt;/a&gt;

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<p>I doubt that anybody is denying Berkeley’s research prowess, and for this reason, Berkeley is certainly an excellent school for PhD students. The real question is whether that matters to most undergraduates. Let’s face it - the vast majority of undergraduates are not interested in research. They just want to be taught well and garner a decent job, or a professional grad school admission that will lead them to a decent job.</p>

<p>^ Berkeley prepares many students for a decent job or grad school admission. I would say more kids visiting this site are likely interested in research vs. the average student.</p>

<p>Yay for Berkeley research!</p>

<p>Go bears!!!</p>

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<p>Well, that’s a very low bar, don’t you think. After all, the average student across the country is likely more interested in the shenanigans of Snooki and the Kardashians than in research. </p>

<p>But to your point, certainly, Berkeley prepares many students for decent jobs or graduate school, with the former surely being far more important for most undergrads than the latter. But it is also true that many Berkeley does not prepare many other students for decent jobs or graduate school - a point that you yourself have identified with regards to certain majors such as MCB.</p>

<p>^ What have I said about MCB majors?</p>

<p>Love the post. It’s too bad USNWR factors in endowment so heavily. </p>

<p>As for sakky’s comments, I do agree that most students are interested in garnering a decent job instead of research…but this post was about the grad school education at Berkeley, not the undergraduate. I think other threads have and would more accurately pertain to an analysis of the undergraduate student body and their aspirations.</p>

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<p>I’ve always agreed with you that there are probably too many MCB students at Berkeley.</p>

<p>^ Hmmm. I don’t recall ever saying there were too many MCB students.</p>

<p>oh sakky.</p>

<p>sakky sakky sakky.</p>

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<p>I believe what you said is that MCB offers poor job prospects at the bachelor’s degree level. Is that not an implication that fewer students should major in it? Or are you saying that those job prospects have no bearing on whether you think people should choose that major? </p>

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<p>Oh flutterfly_28</p>

<p>flutterfly<em>28, flutterfly</em>28, flutterfly_28</p>

<p>Do you have something useful to add to the discussion?</p>

<p>I do not.</p>

<p>But you do not either!</p>

<p>(Just thought I’d jump in here and try to derail this thread before someone gets riled up and starts attempting to debate you.)</p>

<p>Who are you anyway?</p>

<p>And what do you do in your life?</p>

<p>Tell me please!</p>

<p>So curious.</p>

<p>Please please please.</p>

<p>EDIT: PLEASE!</p>

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<p>Umm, I think I have indeed advanced the discussion. It may not have advanced it in a direction that you wanted, but I’d like to think that I have added ideas to the discussion. </p>

<p>You, on the other hand, have done nothing of the sort. If you have something to add to the discussion, then by all means do so. </p>

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<p>Um, why do I have to answer any of this? I don’t ask you personal questions. </p>

<p>If you don’t like my posts, fair enough, don’t read them. Feel free to skip any posts that I write. Then you don’t have to waste any of your time, and I don’t have to put up with your flak. We both win.</p>

<p>Okay… read everything UCBChemEGrad has said so far in the thread. I don’t see anything about MCB majors and he doesn’t seem to know what you’re talking about either. Are you getting your information from other threads? Because you seemed to be engaging in a very unidirectional attack for a while there.</p>

<p>And you can ignore my posts all you want too, I just think other people need to be warned about you before they waste hours of their lives even reading some of your posts.</p>

<p>Sakky, I don’t recall ever saying anything about MCB majors. Perhaps you’re confusing it with BME. I have claimed there are too many BME students and not enough job prospects. I’ve said it’s better to major in a broader engineering discipline for undergrads. </p>

<p>Berkeley doesn’t have a BME program.</p>

<p>lol WAY WAY too many combined posts in this thread.</p>

<p>Hey Sakky,</p>

<p>You post a lot here in the Berkeley forum. Care to explain your relationship with UC Berkeley? Are you an alumni? What exactly was your major? Have you taught at Berkeley?</p>