<p>Dude not trying to make enemies here :)</p>
<p>But when there are 5th graders in my sister’s ELEMENTARY school taking SAT I’s and 8th graders in my Pre-AP Calc class, can the obsessiveness work against them?</p>
<p>JW</p>
<p>The way I see it is that it pretty much can only work against them if all they do is study without doing any other ECs. I suppose a school may reject them simply because they may think they won’t be able to adjust well, however, I would think this is rare.</p>
<p>So, in short, “being too nerdy” alone probably would not work against them.</p>
<p>Fifth graders taking the SAT?</p>
<p>When I read stories like that I seriously feel like crying.</p>
<p>It can if the 5th graders only get like a 1900 <em>GASP</em> don’t let Harvard see that!!</p>
<p>well SAT math is 5th grade level…</p>
<p>I think it wont as the SAt wont even show as its a 5 year validity…its just stupid to do it</p>
<p>These kids are crazy! tap tap tap</p>
<p>Hold on a second. The reason people take the SAT in the fifth grade is to qualify for the the Johns Hopkins IAAY / Center for Talented Youth program. More than half of the people that I know at Yale did CTY back in the day, which might serve to controvert the notion that taking the SATs so early can ‘hurt your chances.’</p>
<p>The website for IAAY/CTY is [url=<a href=“Johns Hopkins Center for Talented Youth (CTY) | Gifted Education Programs”>Johns Hopkins Center for Talented Youth (CTY) | Gifted Education Programs]here[/url</a>].</p>
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<p>it wont hurt… the scores are valid for 5 years right? so the colleges wont even get the scores 7 years later if they apply after Senior year</p>
<p>Yes I think it can hurt. Doing stuff like that may help their test scores, but it wil hurt them in other areas. Also, I think schools may realize that they’re being played.</p>
<p>Also, putting that much pressure on a child can harm their emotional growth, which will hurt them further down the line.</p>
<p>i am a huge fan of the hopkin’s CTY program. the kids are tested to gain admission and my boys have found it very helpful to be around kids who are smart and focussed and interesting. so many people say ‘oh those poor children who have to undergo the pressure of taking an exam and then are forced to attend school all summer!" actually it doesn’t hurt them to get more experience taking standardized exams and those summer programs are amazing! what a rich and diverse experience! they meet cool kids with similar interests from all over! ssure there are pushy parents in every alyer of kids’ lives ( the pushy lacrosse parent/cheerleading parent/ science parent). but as long as the kids enjoy the activity and can perform on the test for admission, let them go for it . there is also ‘cutting’ from sports teams which is a pressure on kids too as well as ‘cutting’ during musical theater /choir or strings auditions. sad to say our kids are going to be evaluated and ‘cut’. before a try-out game kids may get in some practice. before the hopkin’s cty test kids may want to brush up on a math topic. before a recital a kid may want to put in some extra time on the instrument. SAT’s are a huge pressure for many kids. why not start practicing early when there is less at stake?</p>
<p>CTY IS AWESOME</p>
<p><em>this poster is a 2 time CTY alumni</em></p>
<p>but does it help with colleges?</p>
<p>I don’t think that CTY itself helps tooo much, except that it’s a good extracurric/way to spend a summer; i think it’s more of the whole self-selectivity thing… which is good for me…i went to cty, now let me into yale! :)</p>
<p>Meh… I was finished with Calc before I turned 15…</p>
<p>The trick is to keep balance. If the 5th graders aren’t doing anything else besides math and SAT prep, only then does it become a problem. </p>
<p>Although I will say getting TOO far ahead can cause more problems down the road. E.g. by the time you get to college (which may be sooner or later, depending on circumstances), you may realize that you’ve forgotten most of the stuff you’ve learnt. No way do I remember anything from my calc class. I know I would have to retake calc if I wanted to pursue math further in college.</p>
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I too, and I agree completely. I’m now in AP Statistics which is unquestionably lame. Next year I’ll be stuck in Linear Algebra.</p>
<p>Luckily, I don’t plan to pursue math in college. All the same, though…</p>
<p>BTW, the Center for Talented Youth (CTY) is friggin awesome. Though I have to agree that it’s better for young middleschoolers. I took the SAT in 7th grade and studied a lot more than I did when taking it “for real” in 11th. That was actually a good thing, because I acquired a larger vocabulary and saved a lot of time later on.</p>
<p>yeah i did some gifted and talented SAT thing with hopkins in 7th grade. I got a 1010 or something and never heard from them again. Not bad for a 7th grader.</p>
<p>Yea i did something similar to those kids. When in 8th grade i took regent based clases that were normaly for 10th and 11th graders. It didnt work against, but it did the exact opposite- helped me.</p>
<p>I just took the SAT, and I’m in 8th grade. I took Calculus BC in 7th grade, and I am currently taking Multivariable Calculus now. I don’t consider myself nerdy, just very motivated :).</p>
<p>I took the SAT in 8th grade and got a 1070</p>
<p>this is a kid whose parent’s started feeding him GRE High Frequency words @ the age of 8 in 4th grade</p>
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<p>CALC BC ARE YOU SERIOUS!!!</p>
<p>Haha youre insane…that’s a Senior level class that very few can pass on their own</p>
<p>I see people at my school who devote themselves ENTIRELY to their studies and do absolutely nothing else… they have no friends, and do no outside activities. They may have an utterly perfect GPA in the hardest classes and near-perfect SATs, but EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM was rejected from the ivies and most of their top choice schools. They act all high and mighty until they realize they might have to end up attending State University (or the local community college in one case!) instead because of their “intellectual arrogance”. Someone who doesn’t realize that there is more to life than school isn’t very smart to begin with, in my opinion…</p>
<p>I don’t mean to be harsh but such situations make me laugh…</p>
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