<p>So… at my CCC, I was taking a Math class this summer, which is the highest math class before the transfer level math classes that are transferable and req. for the IGETC, 2nd part I believe. </p>
<p>It’s Math 80B. </p>
<p>I dropped the class figuring it was too tough but not before I enrolled in my Fall Classes. I enrolled for Psych 210, which fulfills Maths Req in the Plan C IGETC. </p>
<p>Fall starts next week and though didn’t pass the MAth class, i’m still enrolled to go for the PSych 210 class. Even in the school catalouge Psych 210 states a pre=req of Math 80 or 80B is required and usually when enrolling in the schools website it’ll deny a class enroll request if a pre req hasn’t been met.</p>
<p>This is an odd situation but working out in my favor…unless at some point i was denied entry to that class. This is of the utmost importance to me since i’m applying to the UC’s this fall to enter Fall 09.</p>
<p>I mean, let’s say I take this Psych 210 class and and even get a grade in Dec. then met w/ a counselor and they notice the mistake, can they take this away from me? Even since I got a grade? What if a counselor notices this 2 weeks b4 the fall semester ends?</p>
<p>Obviously i’ll be meeting with counselors soon and sooner since i’m applying to the UC’s…but once I’m in that class…Am I good? </p>
<p>I don’t know how to act now, mainly because I have a math placement test appointment for friday to try to place out of Math 80B and into a transfer level math…but I’m already enrolled in that tranfer level psych 210 class…so i’m wondering if i should even go and rock that boat…</p>
<p>If you’ve been or known of this kind of situation pls let me know as I’m confused on the matter myself…</p>
<p>I was able to enroll in a Business Statistics course (after switching from Business Law) without even taking the placement test, but I dropped the course after two weeks. I don’t know if they’ll go as far as take away your grade from the class, but I definitely wouldn’t risk it. Just take the placement test and hope that you’ll get placed into a transferable math course.</p>
<p>The CC I attended has a policy that if you take a class without taking the prereqs, you would not be given the credit/grade for the class. At least check with your college catalogue before you fully commit to the class.</p>
<p>Usually the professor asks to see a printout of what math level you were placed in or what grade you got in the pre-req if you just finished taking it the previous session.</p>
<p>dammit, this sucks… and of course the best answer to this problem is to study and take that placement test, but math is my worst subject and don’t feel i can pass that test.</p>
<p>Does your CC’s website have any study guides available that will help prepare you for the test? Really though, all you can hope for is to study and do your best.</p>
<p>I have found that members of this forum are overly cautious and have a tendency to do everything by the book. I personally think you will be fine. Once you finish the Psych class, no one is going back to check all your classes to make sure you finished the pre reqs for them…that’s just silly. Do you know how many students these counselors have to help, they don’t have the time do do that crap. I know counselors that have let students skip the pre req just because they went and talked to them.</p>
<p>interesting, thanks fijeeboi, you make a good point.</p>
<p>personally, i doubt i’d be able to skip a pre req since i’ve never heard of that at my college from anyone but tomorrow is my first day of that class and if the prof. does not say anything tomorrow or the next meeting then i’ll be fine and take the course as normal.</p>
<p>the only way then to be discovered is through the uc people who im applying to, but they would only care about the transferrable classes. :-p
that, or talking to a counselor and then noticing…but we’ll see…</p>
<p>Thats right, if you skip a prereq you’re going to be screwed for the rest of your life. You wont learn anything in college and when you graduate and try to get a job they are going to go back and check your college records and they are going find out that you skipped a pre req, then you are going to be black listed from getting a job anywhere, even McDonalds. You will end up living in a van down by the river. All because you skipped da prereq</p>
<p>I think that what josh meant is that if Math is a pre-req for that Psych class, it is for a reason; namely that if he hasn’t passed Math that he’ll be screwed in this class. Don’t be surprised if you get a bad grade or drop it. Let’s be real.</p>
<p>fijee is like the person that is telling you </p>
<p>“Dude it’s just cocaine, it’s not addictive or anything”</p>
<p>Don’t take risks with your education in the nature you are considering. If you can’t beat the CC system straight up then don’t you think you’ll be easily exposed at the UC level and just waste your time and money dropping out because it was too hard to begin with?</p>
<p>Yea Trebor you’re so right, skipping a prereq is exactly like doing Cocaine. Because as soon as you snort a line of coke, you are going to be a coke head and headed towards a life of addiction.
Some of you fools need real life experience. Take your head out of a book and explore the world. Not everything is so black and white in the real world, there is a huge gray area. Maybe my life experiences have led me to bend the rules a bit, because sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do. I still survived a combat tour of duty in Iraq and am starting my first semester at Cal.</p>
<p>fijee - you are now entering the melodrama zone. Relax. What we are saying is that his risk is comparable to attempting a college-level english class by somehow slipping past remedial coursework.</p>
<p>Here’s what I’m seeing:
The OP is not good at math
The OP wants to skip a math class because of the difficulty
The OP wants someone to tell him that his fall class will go just fine
The OP wants someone to tell him that his plan is pure, unadulterated genius
Real Life Experience™ is the the holy grail of credibility and lets you always be right</p>
<p>Point being, they probably WON’T check if you’ve completed the prereq or not. They probably don’t care. But if math is not your strong subject, why would you skip a math prereq for a class? Yes, it will save time. I don’t know what the classes are, but if the psych class is something like stats and the math class is something like algebra, you will have one hell of a time getting through that. On the other hand, if the psych class is something like intro to psych (doubting it with that course number), then you’re probably fine.</p>
<p>Let me 1st clear up w/ what’s been said in this thread. I hate math. When signing up for a transfer level math, I made sure to choose Psych rather than any Math class, knowing Psych would still contain math… My major is Anthro, so ***** math. </p>
<p>Let’s break the rules people, I didn’t think so many people in these forums would follow the book so closely. Anyways…</p>
<p>I get to that Psych class and the prof. mentions that as long as I can use a calculator and doing basic math i’ll be fine. He mentioned the hardest thing this semester will be using that square root sign on a calculator. We even did practice problems and not really too tough. He also stated this class is more on the concepts of analytical math, since it’s also a lab, rather than just analyzing a lot of math. </p>
<p>Also, he didn’t mention anything about me not needing to be in that class. All seems well but I won’t feel completely safe for another week, just in case. But as of now, i’m golden baby.</p>
<p>You are not the first person to have thought of this and I believe most CCs will catch this. I had a math class that I completely bombed (mostly because I didn’t really care at the time). I register for the next class in the series but was kicked out of class the first day. A lot of professors will check to make sure you have completed the prereqs. This professor was nice about it so maybe you can try it, but you’ll probably get caught. Play dumb if you do (its pretty believable considering the base they have to deal with).</p>
<p>I sincerely wish I get to stay in that class. I actually just got out of it 10 min ago. The lecture portion was interesting as he spoke about taking surveys and the lab consisted of pure math, but was incredibly easy. So easy in fact, I was the first student done with his work!</p>
<p>A great life lesson i’m learning is to just do whatever I want without worrying about the consequences and everything will work out in the end. :]</p>