Can I get into an Ivy med school from a less prestigious university?

<p>I will start out by apologizing for poor grammar (it's been a long day). That said I have been trying to find out what universities put the most students into elitist top ten medical schools, but I have been unsuccessful in finding these numbers online. I am a bright and curious student but I was pretty lazy in high school and burnt a few bridges with some less than knowledgeable teachers. In my senior year I took an internship at a hospital and racked up 230 shadow hours as well as developed a passion for medicine and helping people. My question is how realistic is it to get into a top 10 med school from a less prestigious university such as Pitt, Syracuse, Northeastern etc. (not saying these aren't prestigious they're great schools just not ivys). I have already started to get strait As my senior year to help prepare for the challenging workload that comes with a pre-med. Say I do maintain a high average and have great MCAT scores, am I going to have to take a host of Honor's College courses, on top of research on top of more shadowing to get into an elitist med school if that is what I want at the end of my four years? How realistic is this?</p>

<p>If you have a high GPA and a high MCAT and medical related coops and internships, your chances of being admitted to an elite medical school will not be harmed if you graduate from a non-elite college. Keep in mind that even the least selective medical schools are still highly selectve.</p>

<p>I completely understand that I just do not want to be limited to where I will get in before I even attend college. So far I have heard mixed things about how to approach getting into medical school, the advice I was given was to take all of the fundamental classes and master the material, get an A obv. The reason being that medical schools don’t care about the classes you take as long as you do well in them. I don’t know how this can be true because undergrad is not like that but at the same time i have no reason to believe otherwise. But is this true and if it is would that hinder me from admittance into these schools.</p>

<p>First, you should know that not all elite medical schools are Ivies. Top 10 (actually 11 because of a tie for #10) per US News are: Harvard, Penn, Johns Hopkins, WUSTL, Duke, Stanford, UCSF, Yale, U Washington, Columbia, Michigan.</p>

<p>As for getting in, undergrad GPA and MCAT scores matter far more than your undergrad alma mater.</p>

<p>Ughh ik not important… should I be taking classes in the honors college or just the basics. Is it true that they don’t look at course load?</p>

<p>From the Harvard Medical School admissions FAQ:</p>

<p>"What undergraduate institution should I attend? Do Ivy League students have an advantage over other students?</p>

<p>Harvard Medical School is looking for people with broad interests and talents, not for students from particular academic institutions. Attend an undergraduate college that will challenge you both academically and personally."</p>

<p>where are the numbers? are they public info? and their own website will be bias. The only concept of my personality you have is the 3 posts above…</p>



<p>Okay, but who said anything about your personality?</p>

<p>I must have misunderstood your previous response, but I am just trying to pick the best school that will fit me best where I don’t have limitations to what I can and cant do at college X</p>

<p>Old joke: What do they call the last person in the class of the worst medical school in the US: </p>

<p>Answer: “Doctor.” </p>

<p>Don’t worry about an Ivy med school, set the bar at a quality med school. I’ve been told that almost every med school in the US is high quality.</p>

<p>If you know anything about medical school, you will know that it is not at all important to go to an Ivy or even a “top” medical school. A state medical school offers a great medical education and if it is in a major city with a large trauma practice (Houston, Chicago etc) you will get better experience than many other medical schools affiliated with top undergraduate schools. The important part is where you do your residency AFTER medical school.</p>



<p>That one is really easy. The Universities that put the “most students into elitist top ten med schools” are themselves “elitist” undergraduate colleges (to use your term). The number #1 feeder to Harvard med is Harvard Undergrad, for example.</p>

<p>That being said, mcat is 50% of the application for an interview. And since HYP et al, specifically choose students for their testing abilities, HYP et al have the highest mean mcat scores. Such high scoring students would have a higher interview rate without the prestigious undergrad name.</p>

<p>In general, the lower the college on the food chain the higher mcat needed. But any top 50 Uni will place well into med school, perhaps not Harvard, but a US med school. (Note, Syracuse has a double negative…it’s near the bottom of the top 50, and its full of New Yorkers. Since private med schools may also consider geographic diversity, a New Yorker from 'Cuse needs to be on top of his/her game when applying to Harvard med.)</p>

<p>There’s something that many young people don’t understand…</p>

<p>All US MD med schools are very good…there are no bad ones.</p>

<p>^^True, but let the “young people” figure it out themselves once they start earning B’s (or worse) in the prereqs. :D</p>

<p>LOL…I know, but many people don’t realize that the School of Medicine at University of Modest State University is a darn good SOM.</p>

<p>I think if most people looked at the schools of their favorite doctors, they’d see very few went to elite undergrads nor ivy SOMs.</p>

<p>BlueBayou, where did you find the information on the #1 feeder school for Harvard?</p>

<p>It’s somewhat common knowledge – the #1 feeder to Harvard Law is also Harvard College (undergrad). But the info is not public per se. It is just given to First Year med students when the Med School sends them a view/fact/guide book to introduce the school and their new classmates. (With only 100+ students per class, it’s pretty easy to count where everyone is from.)</p>

<p>If you search thru cc, you’ll find several posters have posted summary data of the undergrad colleges that the students in their top tier med school attended.</p>



<p>Not every year. In 2008, for example, there was a lot of grumbling among the pre-med seniors at Harvard when HMS accepted only 6 applicants from Harvard College.</p>

<p>Read MOWC’s post 11, twelve times if necessary. It is absolutely correct. The medical field is relatively “flat” when it comes to prestige. To a great extent, med school curricula is so standardized that the schools are very similar. And the average workday of the Harvard educated doctor doesn’t look any different than that of the State U educated doctor. Oh, and Blue Cross doesn’t reimburse the Harvard med guy a penny more for being a Harvard med grad.</p>

<p>OP, yes, as long as you have the MCAT and GPA. I believe there was one who did exceptionally well at Harvard Medical school and he went to community college for 2 years and then transferred to UCLA for undergraduate. He was on the news that’s why I know.</p>