<p>dontKnow: as you stated at 2:04 this morning, summer aid applications must complete the 2013-2014 FAFSA. The fall 2014 and spring 2015 semesters at your matriculated school require the 2014-2015 FAFSA. The Pell grant is a federal scholarship and requires the FAFSA; you would not have filed a 2013-2014 FAFSA back in January of 2013, correct?</p>
<p>^^^ I am curious to see how OP respond to this.
@romanigypsyeyes Basically I said the same thing earlier. If he wants to claim degree seeking at the CC, he needs to withdraw the freshman admission from the other college. However, OP may need to apply again as transfer as there are different requirements.</p>
<p>The 2013-2014 FAFSA can be file ANY time during that academic year for consideration for federally funded aid during THAT academic year.</p>
<p>I agree with Romani…the student would be transferring courses to the four year school. This student needs to see the impact of THAT issue. </p>
<p>And the student would need to apply to the CC as a matriculated student.</p>
<p>See the link from OP <a href=“http://www3.austincc.edu/it/eforms/forms_int/STAS.001.2014.pdf”>http://www3.austincc.edu/it/eforms/forms_int/STAS.001.2014.pdf</a>
OP’s plan won’t work because
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<p>I understand that CC is a site for advice. But wouldn’t OP be better served by calling each school and asking these questions of the respective FA offices? Wouldn’t it be better to hear it from the horses mouth versus here where he isn’t happy with the answers he’s receiving? He could have had his questions answered by now. As a low income student, he is in no position to mess this one up. Obtaining the correct info is of paramount importance. </p>
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OP done that and he/she didn’t like the answers
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<p>@Newhavenctmom As 4kidsdad said. I mentioned to my Uni that I might be taking out a pell for the summer at CC and they told me that it should be fine because it was a different school year (although the guy on the phone seemed a bit unknowledgable about the subject). I applied as a transient student to the CC because I was only planning on staying the summer and when I applied for financial aid they told me that if I wanted financial aid I had to call admissions and change my admit type to degree-seeking (which obviously I’m not). I’ve already accepted this and i’m not going to risk my future financial aid. But yes, 4kidsdad, I don’t like the answer. </p>
<p>My Uni already knows I’m taking classes at the CC, the only thing they told me is to make sure I send my transcript as soon as possible.</p>
<p>I already have my 13-14 fafsa on file, btw.</p>
<p>And no, if I re-apply as a transfer I risk losing one of my freshman specific scholarships and I’m no longer automatic admit.</p>
<p>I guess it boils down to this: how much does the title “degree-seeking” matter? Had I applied as a normal freshman at the college (and not a transient) I would not be having this issue. I don’t think my problem here is with breaking the law, but instead possible consequences from the schools. But the thing is, it’s just a TITLE and I can easily change it by calling the admissions office. My uni already knows I’m taking classes at the CC, but how much will they care when they find out I was listed as degree-seeking? </p>
<p>Ask the Admissions OFFice of your college for who determines transfer status of a student who applies to college, and then ask if there will be a problem if you register for summer classes as a matriculating student and then have the courses transferred over. I frankly don’t see a problem, but I am not so sure as to bet your Status on it. So I agree with you, Dontknow. That you are taking the courses after consideration and acceptance as a straight out of high school student seems to me to prevail, but it does not hurt to make sure that there isn’t a problem.</p>
<p>Check this out about pell grants not being offered anymore in the summer.
<a href=“Pell Grant Program That Boosted College Graduation Rates Gets The Axe | Time”>http://time.com/2809014/graduation-rates-pell-grants-education/</a></p>
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A lot. To say you’re “degree-seeking” at ACC while you’re not is misrepresentation! From OP’s link:
OP, you really don’t want to start off your college on the wrong foot! By the way, I hope OP didn’t sign that ACC application.</p>
<p>Way to easy to get caught and will have to pay back the money, face dismissal and a host of other charges. While you can attend different schools, you can only be matriculated as a degree seeking student at one school. If your Cc admitted you as a degree seeking student, you can no longer be matriculated at the 34 year school. You will have to reapply as transfer student.</p>
<p>keep in mind whatever monies you get for the summer will just reduce the aid that you are eligible for during the school year. Pick your poison; you can pay now or pay later, but you if you are a pell eligible student, on the off chance that you get summer pell, your grant aid will be reduced for the fall/spring.</p>
<p>@4Kidsdad Hmm, i wonder then, how someone with the clear intention of transfering is allowed to receive financial aid? They really should be more specific with their wording. </p>
<p>If you enroll as a matriculated student at school number ONE, then move to,school number TWO…also hoping to be a matriculated student…you would be a transfer student to school number TWO.</p>
<p>If you are just taking courses as a non-matriculated student, that is another story…but you can not get financial aid as a non-matriculated student.</p>
<p>@cptofthehouse Yeah, I’ll probably just end up callng them and try to be as specific as possible with my situation. I have mentioned it breifly to them but I don’t think they fully understood. While everyone else is looking at me like I’m a crminal you’re the only one giving me real advice.</p>
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OP, you’re the one started this thread with the title
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<p>Intent is a very difficult thing to gage. There are all sorts of situations where intent can make the difference. If I have my packages mailed to a state where no sales tax is charged because someone is home there to pick up the package, whereas it would sit by the roadside where it live, plus get hit with a big fat sales tax charge, it’s fine. Also, though one is supposed to file a form and pay the sales tax for things purchased out of state with no sales tax paid in our state, it is something simply not done nor is it enforced at all But if you out and out state that you are having packages sent to a friend’s or family member’s house to avoid paying the state sales tax, you run the risk of getting nailed for it if you catch the attention of those such authorities. </p>
<p>Many, many students enroll at CC with no intent of matriculating, but end up doing so. Even some who are in your situation. If the money is just too tight and at the end of the summer, you can’t come up with what you have to pay for the school you are planning to attend, you could end up matriculating at the Comm college. THat you have accepted a spot at that college and are planning to go there, is no sure thing. </p>
<p>I personally don’t have any trouble with the OP registering as a matriculating student to keep that option available and to get the fin aid that way since you won’t get it after the fact. I don’t even know how if there is PELL or whatever available.But my opinion, nor anyone else’s here counts. It’s what the colleges rules are about this. I don’t think it’s an issue, but I would not go ahead just on my opinion as I don’t know what the rules are. </p>
<p>How can he be a matriculating student at two colleges at the same time??? Clearly he has every intention of attending the four year school and transferring those credits rather than applying them towards an associates degree. It is one thing to keep options open, but at this moment, when he is signing those documents, he is NOT working toward a degree at the CC.</p>
<p>“Also, though one is supposed to file a form and pay the sales tax for things purchased out of state with no sales tax paid in our state, it is something simply not done nor is it enforced at all.” It is still illegal, even if you are not caught. I wouldn’t be able to look myself in the mirror or preach in my church’s pulpit with a good conscience if I broke a law knowingly because I thought I would not be caught. Yes, I DO estimate my mail order sales taxes and pay them with my income taxes. </p>
<p>^^^ I agree. He has to withdraw from the admitted university if he claim to seek for a degree at the community college. No exception and no grey area disregarding the intention.
Also for the sales tax. It is just like self reporting scores and EC on applications. Even you don’t need to provide proof, one should not lie at all or it has a legal outcome. Here in Michigan we can pay a usage tax instead if we don’t have complete record of mail orders from out of state. The state tax would do the estimated for us. Not likely to get caught is not a reason/excuse to commit crime.</p>
<p>He is not a matriculating student at his university until he shows up. A lot of kids don’t show up in the fall, after committing, some by choice, some not. Some might even have another school in place. He is committed to being a matriculating student in the fall if all goes as planned. Until then he can be a matriculating student elsewhere and change his mind. Not that any of this matters if the schools don’t buy this. </p>
<p>My nephew was not totally sold on going ROTC. Neither was my friend’s son, but they wanted the scholarship; they wanted to give it a go. My nephew is now gung ho. My friend’s son took the scholarship but decided to bail before signing the commitment. Gave it a try, but decided he did not want to make the commitment. Freed up the spot for someone else. </p>
<p>My son wanted to take a course that was heavily subscribed at his school and did not get a spot for two semesters. Found out that the trick was to change ones major and get first dibs. If you like the area, stay with it (and he did); many of the kids bail after taking the course to another major. That’s the way things work in life at times.</p>
<p>There is gray area here. I personally don’t see a problem about these things unless it is spelled that this cannot be done as an ethics breach. </p>