<p>@cptofthehouse Exactly, who’s to say that I’m still not decidng between going to the CC or the University? It’s also way too easy for this to happen to someone. They apply for the CC as a normal freshman, instead of as a non-degree seeker, and take out the pell grant and if an issue arises, “oops, didn’t know!” There are just way too many loop holes regarding this situation and the regulations should be more SPECIFIC. </p>
<p>But again, I don’t think I’ll be risking it without a clear answer from the schools.</p>
<p>I want to make my self perfectly clear that I am not the arbiter of this case and am just stating my opinion which in this case flies in the face of what some very heavy hitting, well respected (by me too) CCers like Thumper, Sybbie, 4kidsdad, KKmam, billscho, who have proven me wrong at times. Just giving my view on this, and yes, you had better make sure you are not in breach of anything at the schools. It is entirely possible that I am way off on this. </p>
<p>DontKnow…you need to be VERY VERY careful here. VERY. You don’t want to do anything that is going to jeopardize your financial aid package for the fall term and subsequent years. </p>
<p>A couple of additional thoughts:</p>
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<li><p>Why aren’t you working this summer? Why are you planning to take courses anywhere?</p></li>
<li><p>Are you absolutely positive that your four year school will accept these courses towards your degree? </p></li>
<li><p>Like I said…there is a big difference between taking courses as a non-matriculated student prior to your freshman year, than taking courses elsewhere as a matriculated student. </p></li>
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<p>Your four year school likely doesn’t care if you take courses as a non-matriculated student, and then ask them to accept those courses. Of course, you do NOT get financial aid as a non- matriculated student.</p>
<p>If you are a matriculated student at the CC, you will need to ask how your fall college will view that. Most will view someone who has matriculated ELSEWHERE and taken courses there as a TRANSFER student…and this would jeopardize your freshman incoming status. </p>
<p>Honestly, I would NOT take courses this summer. I would suggest you WORK.</p>
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Agree. You would lose freshman student status after just one credit hour of college in some schools. For example, see <a href=“http://www.nccu.edu/knowledgebase/faq.cfm?id=106”>http://www.nccu.edu/knowledgebase/faq.cfm?id=106</a>
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<p>@Thumper1
- It’s too late now. I’m finishing up my first course (maymester), and dropping from the others seems pointless since the first is the most expensive. But like I said earlier, I enrolled in these courses with the intent of saving money (and/or time) by not taking them at the university. I’m taking them online, so it shouldn’t be too difficult to manage working 40 hrs at the same time.
- My university has an online tool that tells you which courses will transfer, and I’m only taking core courses, (e.g. history, govt, eng) so they should count towards my degree. I’ve also already consulted with my uni about this.</p>
<p>I will have to ask my uni about what they consider a transfer.</p>
<p>If you are NOT a matriculated student, it might be fine to take a couple of courses. I’m betting it would NOT be fine if you matriculated at the CC.</p>
<p>Still…why are you doing this? Are you worried that you won’t be able to finish in four years at your university without these summer courses?</p>
<p>^^^ Agree on the first part. As for the second part, it is quite common in my town that students taking intro classes at CC the summer before attending UMich to get a better placement and save money. There are some courses that are known to be suck at UMich (e.g. Physics) that it would be much easier and cheaper to obtain those credits in summer at a CC.</p>
<p>Late to the party here … do not lie. Period. You are a UM student, and you cannot receive any aid at CC in the summer. I used to work at another MI university, and I pulled summer aid for students who tried to game the system. Your name will come up on a concurrent enrollment report at both schools … I always followed up to find out what was really going on & would back off the Pell (causing a balance for the student, which meant no transcript until the money was paid). If I didn’t happen to catch it, the student ended up finding out the hard way that lying doesn’t pay … when there was a reduced Pell award in the spring due to using it in the summer. And yes, it is very, very common for students at UMich to take classes at CC’s during the summer. My D’s friends in engineering & biology/chemistry all did that. It costs less, and it takes some of the pressure off. </p>
<p>@keksmom I don’t think OP is a UM student. I am just using that as an example to explain why students want to take classes at CC before Fall enrollment in response to another poster. If it is at Ann Arbor, the CC is fairly affordable without any financial aid.</p>
<p>Ahh … I hadn’t caught up yet & was confused. But you are right in using that as an explanation for why someone might take summer classes at another school. The first part of my answer is the same for UM or any other school, of course.</p>
<p>@kelsmom Your answer makes the most sense. Didn’t realize there was a system to stop this from happening in the first place.</p>
<p>@cptofthehouse Alright, I’ve finally gotten a difinative answers from both schools involved and as you said there was no “lying” involved. Apperently because i am a new student, I can’t be considered transient or non-matriculating student in the first place, so the cc promptly changed my student type to a normal freshmen. I emailed the university being specific as possible and they told me the same thing they had said on the phone, that I can do it as long as I remember about my 6 year limit. I should have just asked the schools in the first place lol. Thank you to everyone who helped me out here.</p>
<p>I think someone may have said…the devil is in the details! Glad it worked out.</p>
<p>Really? The schools are technically incorrect, but it’s their audit issue. If they tell you it’s okay, then you have no reason to believe otherwise, as long as you have explained your situation. The problem for you will be that if the summer term at the CC is part of 2014-2015, you will get a reduced award come spring if you take a full load of classes fall and spring. This is because you can only earn 100% of your Pell in any given award year. Conversely, if the CC has summer in the 2013-2014 award year, and if you earned 100% of your Pell in 2013-2014 already, the CC will be coming after you for the over award once they figure it out.</p>
<p>I think the OP will be a college freshman in the fall. She has said that the CC includes summer as part of the 2013-2014 school year. </p>
<p>If that is the case…will she be OK?</p>
<p>If this is the case, yes, she will most likely be OK.</p>