Can the Police Really Do that?

<p>If he was charging the officer he would still need to see where he was going. He was not a bull on four legs. As for the shooting multiple times in the arm, that can possibly be explained by him not having both arms raised the entire time he was facing the officer. </p>

<p>Yeah, I guess that would probably be what they say. So he surrendered and walked or ran toward the officer with his hands up or down while the officer shot him in the arm four times and then twice in the head when he got closer. OK. This is going to be interesting.</p>

<p>I also notice that the autopsy corroborates the eyewitnesses, who said 5 to 7-8 shots. </p>

<p>Flossy i don’t think the head wounds say the officer shot him in the head as he got closer. Brown was far too tall for that. They say the officer shot him in the head when he was already down, or going down. In other words, not charging.</p>

<p>He was going down from arm wounds? I mean, I have always thought all of the autopsies would be pretty consistent with both versions. Why wouldn’t they be? And, we have yet to hear version two. I assume there will be a version two. Also, even if he had cause to shoot I think the cop is in very big trouble.</p>

<p>If he was hurting from being shot in the arm multiple times he might have been dizzy and not able to stand. Another explanation is that he was ordered to (or decided to) drop to his knees in a sign of surrender. </p>

<p>I’m glad the DOJ will be investigating thus case and hopefully do a thorough investigation so that all of the evidence can be understood in a cohesive fashion and there can be resolution and healing. </p>

<p>Six shots hit. But we don’t know how many other shots there were. One witness said there were two shots, then a pause, then a bunch of shots together. It could have been two shots during the scuffle, neither of which hit, then Brown runs away then round and gets shot five times.</p>

<p>Or he may have been lying prone.</p>

<p>One of the arm wounds was a graze. It may have been that which persuaded him to turn around and surrender. </p>

<p>Flossy if the officer had good cause to shoot, why would he be in big trouble?</p>

<p>Are you kidding? Also chaos and gunfire again in Ferguson. The peace thing is not working so well. </p>

<p>[Haven’t those weapons already been developed? Tasers. “Don’t taze me, bro,” comes to mind. But, it’s not lethal.]</p>

<p>@Flossy . . . the officer who shot Oscar Grant at Fruitvale Station claimed that he thought he had his taser when he shot Grant who was face down on the ground with his hands behind him. </p>

<p>Oh man! Just read the posts about the autopsy. No wonder they didn’t release it. </p>

<p>Yep. Number of bullet wounds could have been released by the PD the day after the shooting. I imagine they’ve spent the last 8 days furiously trying to put together a plausible story for what they obviously know to be PR disaster, before they officially confirm anything at all. </p>

<p>Compare post #754 to post #768 . . . that’s what this is about. My kid, starry eyed innocent that he is (and 6’2" nearly 18 year old ginger), thinks it’s a funny afterthought when an officer showed up at a house party and questioned him then shut it down for a noise complaint, “we were just hanging out on the trampoline.” He wasn’t doing anything wrong and didn’t feel like he had anything to worry about. He has no idea how lucky he is. If anyone wonders what the definition of “White Privilege” is, that is it in a nutshell.</p>

<p>My son is texting me about buying a TV on craigslist with his very diverse set of senior engineering roomîes. I am tempted to ask him what he knows about what is going on, but I won’t. Maybe tomorrow. I like to think he knows how lucky he is. We talk about it a lot.</p>

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<p>TV is probably the least information-dense and most misleading way to get news.</p>

<p>I wasn’t thinking of the TV and the news as related. My brother, his uncle, pounds that into our head. I was thinking I feel fortunate that tonight, a TV was his biggest problem. Tommorow, he could be that black man in the convenience store, or getting followed. He and my husband have been there and done the latter. My husband when he was VP of his local medical group. </p>

<p>“Sorry doc…can you squeeze me in tommorow?”…“Yeah, sure…”</p>

<p>It doesn’t matter, not to the police. </p>

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<p>Perhaps he is lucky that the LAPD has improved significantly since two decades ago.
<a href=“http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/13/us/13lapd.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0”>http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/13/us/13lapd.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>That does not mean that it is problem-free, or that he won’t have to watch what he wears (e.g. wearing “gang colors” may attract unwelcome attention from both the police and the criminal gangs). But it looks like the Ferguson PD is like the LAPD of two decades ago.</p>

<p>My brother got pulled over on his BICYCLE in Santa Monica. (He also got a grammy nom! :smiley: )</p>