Can this "trick" work for Cal/UCLA?

<p>Hi everyone. I want to appy this year for transfer into Cal and UCLA. I'm currently a freshman, but have completed a year's worth of courses at a CA community college during my high school career. I had an overall 3.62 GPA - including A's in my intended major.</p>

<p>I am currently going to a private University here in CA where I am taking 3 courses. I am ALSO taking 3 courses at a different school online. My question is, would it be smart or incredibly stupid to only list on my application the classes that I'm taking at the different school online, or will they find out which school I am technically enrolled at full-time?</p>

<p>The problem is, I don't plan on having good grades at all this semester at my University, but plan on having a 4.0 in my online classes at the different school. Hence, in terms of admissions, the 4.0 at the other school would give me an edge and if I list my current courses at my University, my stats will go down a great deal.</p>

<p>Is this too risky or is it OK since I am transferring anyway? Will they find out which school I go to full-time or does it not matter?</p>

<p>Thanks everyone!</p>

<p>Any help would be appreciated. I don't know if this plan could work?</p>

<p>I wouldnt do that. My sister applied to law school a few years back and had taken one class at my local community college. She had gotten a Incomplete from the community college and forgot to report it. Somehow the law school admissions found out. Since it was only one class she was able to explain that she had forgotten about the class. The admissions may have some way of finding out all colleges based on your name and social security number. If you are taking alot of classes and dont send in the transcript and the admission do find out about it they will throw your application out. It is very risky and if they do find out you have no shot what so ever. Maybe just explain the grades on you personal essay. It is less risky to make up a phoney excuse.</p>

<p>Thanks. Any other opinions?</p>

<p>Don't do it. I took a class in organtic chemistry a long time ago just for fun from a different CCC that I attend. I was suprised that my school found out about it and they have the record of the grade. So I assume that they check it out. In my case it didn't matter because I just took it for credit.</p>

<p>It's never, ever a good idea to lie (or in this case, omit required information) to schools that you'd like to attend. It's extremely likely that they will find out, and even if they don't, it's awfully manipulative. If I were you, the risk just isn't worth it, unless you're really content with the idea of staying at your current school for the next four years. </p>

<p>You say that "you don't plan" on getting good grades at your primary school. Why? Why not just try as hard as everyone else here is and submit the grades to the UCs? Even if you don't get spectacular grades this semester, your GPA will even out when you include the 4.0 from the online classes. You've still got about 2 months to work on it, and as was mentioned, you can always try to talk your way out of poor grades in your essays. It's a much safer and respectable way to go. </p>

<p>Lying isn't okay just because you're transferring and the fact that you're enrolled in this school definitely matters. It may even help you (if I were reviewing your application, I'd be much more impressed with your attending a presumably difficult private college than with online classes). This year is still a part of your academic record and will be looked at by graduate schools, etc. Additionally, why would you want to lose the 9(?) units that you've earned at this private school? Every unit counts towards the 60 you need to transfer (and ~220 you need to graduate), it isn't wise to waste them. </p>

<p>I don't mean to play moral police or anything, and you're welcome to try anything you like. However, as someone who's worked really, really hard to transfer to one of these schools, I'd have a hard time respecting anyone who thinks its okay to cheat the system, especially over a measly 3 classes. To me, it simply isn't worth it.</p>

<p>Thanks allie. I will not try to attempt that trick.</p>

<p>Can I ask you, since you go to UCLA, what GPA would give me a solid chance of getting in as a transfer Econ major? Keep in mind that I live in CA, but currently go to a private university here. I completed four courses at a local CC and four classes at an out-of-state online CC.</p>

<p>I have a 3.62 average from last year, but this semester might lower that since I am expecting about a 3.2 (although it's hard to tell now). However, I have received all A's in Calculus and Analytical Geometry, Statistics, Micro, and Macro - all of which are apart of the Econ major.</p>

<p>Thanks for your advice.</p>

<p>I don't currently go to LA, I'm applying this year and am in the same boat as you are. But I've pretty much devoted the past two years of my life to school and to getting in, so I feel like I'm pretty invested. </p>

<p>I can't tell you specifics about requirements for econ because im not terribly familiar with them. However, I know that they're pretty much accepting 3.8s and above for business econ. I don't know how much more impacted business econ is than straight econ, but I cant imagine that they're too different. I do know that they want to see at least a 3.2 in your major prep, so As in those requirements will be beneficial. The california CC classes might work in your favor, but it wont give you CC priority since they want to see igetc certification. You will be considered an outside applicant, as opposed to a CC applicant. Just keep in mind that it is harder to transfer from this pool, since the majority of their focus goes towards full-time CC students. </p>

<p>I hesitate to tell you a gpa that would give you a "solid chance", because truthfully there really isnt one, the transfer and application process is so arbitrary. This goes for you especially since you're coming from a different applicant pool than the majority of transfers. Try to keep your GPA as high as you can, write really good essays, and play up any outside EC or occupational experience that you have in your major. I know its not very specific, but its the most I can offer you with my knowledge of your major.</p>