<p>I would love to go to Penn or at least consider it for my undergrad. My parents are less thrilled for various other reasons. The expenses I am talking about here are around +/- 12,000 per year.</p>
<p>They will not pay the expected family contribution for Penn. </p>
<p>They will not co-sign any loans so that I could pay for it.</p>
<p>The above two will not change under any circumstances whatsoever.</p>
<p>Is it over?</p>