<p>Thank you guys for all the help and encouragement! Actually I am from California, and my school is indeed very competitive.
Anyway, I will hope for the best then. I actually want to got to Berkeley more than LA, so hopefully Berkeley will take into consider other things more so than UCLA.</p>
<p>Also, OTHER PEOPLE WHO ALSO GOT REJECTED FROM UCLA, don’t lose hope haha.</p>
<p>The comparable figures would always be Common Data Set figures, to ensure the same methodology was applied to each set of figures. </p>
<p>Berkeley: </p>
<p>[College</a> Search - University of California: Berkeley - SAT®, AP®, CLEP®](<a href=“College Search - BigFuture | College Board”>College Search - BigFuture | College Board) </p>
<p>SAT Critical Reading: 580 - 710 </p>
<p>SAT Math: 630 - 760 </p>
<p>SAT Writing: 600 - 720 </p>
<p>Southern California: </p>
<p>[College</a> Search - University of Southern California - USC - SAT®, AP®, CLEP®](<a href=“College Search - BigFuture | College Board”>http://collegesearch.collegeboard.com/search/CollegeDetail.jsp?collegeId=3341&profileId=6) </p>
<p>SAT Critical Reading: 620 - 720 </p>
<p>SAT Math: 650 - 750 </p>
<p>SAT Writing: 640 - 730 </p>
<p>ACT Composite: 28 - 33 </p>
<p>Grades and class rank appear on a different page on the College Board site for each college: </p>
<p>Berkeley: </p>
<p>[College</a> Search - University of California: Berkeley - At a Glance](<a href=“College Search - BigFuture | College Board”>College Search - BigFuture | College Board) </p>
<pre><code>* 98% in top 10th of graduating class
100% in top quarter of graduating class
100% in top half of graduating class
93% had h.s. GPA of 3.75 and higher
3% had h.s. GPA between 3.5 and 3.74
2% had h.s. GPA between 3.25 and 3.49
1% had h.s. GPA between 3.0 and 3.24
1% had h.s. GPA between 2.5 and 2.99
</code></pre>
<p>Southern California: </p>
<p>[College</a> Search - University of Southern California - USC - At a Glance](<a href=“College Search - BigFuture | College Board”>College Search - BigFuture | College Board) </p>
<pre><code>* 87% in top 10th of graduating class
97% in top quarter of graduating class
100% in top half of graduating class
53% had h.s. GPA of 3.75 and higher
29% had h.s. GPA between 3.5 and 3.74
14% had h.s. GPA between 3.25 and 3.49
3% had h.s. GPA between 3.0 and 3.24
1% had h.s. GPA between 2.5 and 2.99
</code></pre>
<p>It does look like the two colleges emphasize different admission factors.</p>
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<p>Yes, and no. The UC gpa is capped solely for the purposes of admissions eligibility. The UC computer in the sky also calculates the uncapped gpa – indeed, the ELC calculation is uncapped – and the UC computer calculates a three year gpa (including Frosh grades). ALL are available for use by the holistic reviewer. Of course, the two point-based campuses (SD & D) only use one gpa for awarding points.</p>
<p>JW: yessirrreee, USC gives out automatic tuition discounts for NMSF’s (regardless of gpa), so yeah, they care about test scores, a LOT. Also, as do most privates, USC will superscore the SAT (although I’m have not the foggiest idea how many extra points that is really worth). Finally, USC does not publish a common data set, so its numbers have always been suspect, IMO. </p>
<p>A better source than CN is Cals’ common data set.</p>
<p><a href=“http://cds.berkeley.edu/pdfs/PDF%20wBOOKMARKS%2007-08.pdf[/url]”>http://cds.berkeley.edu/pdfs/PDF%20wBOOKMARKS%2007-08.pdf</a></p>
<p>middsmith,</p>
<p>When you got 98-99%% in top 10th of graduating class but 25% below 1200 on SAT, it just seems to me quite a few of them come from mediocre/bad high schools. You don’t score just 1200 or below and still be in the top 10% in any decent school (I expect them to be rather rare even if there are cases like that). The flip side of that is bunch of talented students in competitive HS got rejected because they don’t make the top-10% when they could have been the stars or even vals in other less competitive schools.</p>
<p>ucla only accepted 4000 out of 55000. there are bound to be some students in the rejection pile that will get into ivy leagues.</p>
<p>^^ correctoin. UCLA matriculates ~4,000 Frosh each year, but accepts 12-13k (since many go elsewhere).</p>
<p>Since the OP brought up UCLA, we should look at the comparable numbers for [UCLA](<a href=“College Search - BigFuture | College Board”>College Search - BigFuture | College Board).</p>
<pre><code>* 97% in top 10th of graduating class
100% in top quarter of graduating class
100% in top half of graduating class
92% had h.s. GPA of 3.75 and higher
4% had h.s. GPA between 3.5 and 3.74
2% had h.s. GPA between 3.25 and 3.49
1% had h.s. GPA between 3.0 and 3.24
1% had h.s. GPA between 2.5 and 2.99
</code></pre>
<p>SAT 25-75%:</p>
<p>SAT Critical Reading… 570 - 680<br>
SAT Math… 600 - 730<br>
SAT Writing… 580 - 700<br>
ACT Composite… 25 - 31</p>
<p>It appears that being in the Top 10% of the HS class is a requirement for admission for both UCLA and Cal, regardless of SAT’s or HS quality. USC profits from accepting capable students that don’t fit into UCLA’s rigid criteria.</p>
<p>You’re damn straight you can still get into an Ivy. I got into Cornell already and but I got rejected from UCLA. I also got into Duke, Vanderbilt, and USC, but not UCLA. So to answer your question, you can definitely get into an Ivy if you got rejected from UCLA.</p>
<p>So, okay gt50, could you share with us a few stats like your GPA and SAT’s? To what do you attribute your rejection by UCLA when you were demonstrably a competitive candidate? Were you IS or OOS for UCLA?</p>
<p>hey i got rejected from UCLA too and trust me i saw the kids that got in from my school who a. have lower grades than me b. did not take as competitive classes as me c. had lower SAT scores than me & d. did not have as extensive extra curriculars as me. but i talked to a cal rep who said she was fairly certain i was good to go there. </p>
<p>theres no reason to worry or compare at all because the uc’s, esp. ucla in particular, are completely different in decision making</p>
<p>People keep saying UCLA has 55,000 applicants. I think that is from last year’s number. I heard this year UCLA has about at least 73,000 applicants.</p>
<p>no it says in the rejection letter they had 55000</p>
<p>Ok, here are my stats:
SAT (one sitting) 2130: 690 CR, 730 M, 710 W
SAT (superscore) 2160: 720 CR, 730 M, 710 W
ACT: 33 Composite, 34 E, 33 M, 30 R, 33 S</p>
<p>Taken 4 APs, one weighted class, 6 Honors classes : 2 4’s, 1 5, DNT one
Significant classes in senior schedule: AP Calculus AB, AP Chemistry, AP Statistics</p>
<p>GPA 9-11 W: 4.11
GPA 9-11 UW: ?
GPA 10-11 W: 4.40
GPA 10-11 UW: 3.85</p>
<p>ECs: very strong…involved in medical missions to third-world countries, assistant in several hospitals, many other activities similar</p>
<p>Essays and teacher recs: very strong as well</p>
<p>Most significant award: National Hispanic Merit Scholar Finalist</p>
<p>Ethnicity: Hispanic</p>
<p>To be honest, I have no idea why I was rejected from UCLA. I was rather confident I was going to get in. In fact, it was one of my safety schools, and I don’t know what IS or OOS is, so I can’t answer that question.</p>
<p>glasstiger50, UCLA does not practice AA. At least, they try not to be obvious about it. The Ivy + privates do. You are a strong candidate for UCLA, but so are many other students who got rejected. Looking at the UC stat finder, about 50% with average 700+ on each section of the SAT and similar GPA get rejected. UCLA is your safety school?</p>
<p>Unless glasstiger was allowed to submit a unique application, the UC’s do not accept “teacher recs,” “very strong” or not.</p>
<p>(Hello, everybody. I’m back.:))</p>
<p>Oh yeah, I forgot. I was just stating all my possible info. My bad. And yes, I was banking on UCLA being my safety school.</p>
<p>You most likely will be accepted into an ivy considering you are very accomplished and admissions are subjective.</p>
<p>glasstiger:</p>
<p>Are you instate? If so, were you ELC? What is your approx. rank? (The latter two questions put your gpa in context.)</p>
<p>epiph: where ya been?</p>
<p>hey OP a lot of people are getting rejected by the top 3 UC schools this year so you’re definitely not alone on this one
as for the ivies i’ve heard some extraordinary stories in the past few years so don’t give up hope… just hold your head up high
hope you get in man (or wooo-man)</p>
<p>IS = in state
OOS = out of state.</p>