Canada: Long Waiting Time for Procedures but Unemployed Doctors

Healthcare in the US is the most expensive in the world. For that money, we’re ranked the worst among industrialized countries, 11th out of 11. I’ve seen other studies that rank us around 37th in the world for healthcare. I wish this myth wouldn’t persist among politicians and the general public that we have the world’s greatest healthcare.

http://www.commonwealthfund.org/~/media/files/publications/fund-report/2014/jun/1755_davis_mirror_mirror_2014.pdf

^^And yet, everyone wants to come here for medical school, personal treatment, buy our drugs and devices and follow our research.

Go figure, huh?

The only people from other countries that can afford our state of the art care have money. Lots of it.

^true in America as well.

Maybe you haven’t heard of “The Affordable Care Act”.

No money = Medicaid. No insurance = you should have signed up.

Canada rations healthcare by slowing down the ability of all its citizens to get treatment. Fewer doctors, fewer appointment times, fewer operating rooms, fewer CTs, MRIs and othe diagnositics. No one apparently measures the effect of that wait time in terms of pain, discomfort, stress, anxiety and similar factors.

ACA is a start, but not nearly as good as what Canada and the rest of the First World has.

Yeah, we can see that from the original article.

Ask Canadians if they want to get rid of it since it is so bad

It’s weird–there’s this chorus down here in the US trying to tell Canadians how bad their healthcare is, and they’re all like–what are you talking about?

The article is largely about poor planning, both on the part of med schools and students, and I don’t see 55 graduates a year failing to match as evidence the Canadian system is deeply flawed.

Canada is not the only place where med students fail to match.

http://www.post-gazette.com/news/health/2014/05/26/Some-med-school-grads-fail-to-get-residency/stories/201405260083

To add fuel to the argument, here is an example of centralized government health planning:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/muhc-specialists-clinical-divestment-1.3337154

US medical school is essentially closed to foreigners (for MD degree).

Do you get prompt high-quality treatment under Medicaid? And before ACA, not so easy to just sign up for insurance.

Prior to the ACA, and even now in non expansion states, no money does NOT equal Medicaid. No money plus a host of other factors make you eligible.

Yes.

Also, due to the ACA and large increased insured patients, many PCP are not accepting new patients.

Just a couple salient points;

  1. CR issue; What I posted was “wants” to come here, which is correct.
  2. Maybe half of US Medical schools consider international students for admission.
  3. The matriculation rate for such students is about 10% which is twice as liberal as that of some elite universities.

It appears misleading to term this situation as “essentially closed”.

^Why?

essentially

*used to emphasize the basic, fundamental, or intrinsic nature of a person, thing, or situation.*

Half of them open does not qualify as “essentially” closed.

Actually, you said EVERYONE wants to come here, which is not correct… [-X

You know, it’s funny to see what many Americans like to believe about healthcare in Canada. An interesting dinner conversation with a well-educated, well-traveled couple in SC last year about it and they looked at us like we were out of our minds when we told them what it’s actually like, and not like what they had read or heard.

In the many discussions here on CC over the years, the same complaints about U.S. healthcare/insurance seem to be raised time and time again. Yet, I’ve never been turned down for anything, have ZERO cost, choose my own doctors, never have a problem getting a same day appointment with my PCP, have no co-pay, have never had to talk to an insurance company, never had to get prior approval, never had to discuss payment issues with any of my doctors, never had to have discussions like those that are frequently held here on CC about healthcare, never had to worry about job loss being related to health insurance, never had to worry about one of my kids being covered once they hit a certain age, never had an issue with choice of doctors, and never had to “wait a long time for a procedure”. I also have several family members and friends who are physicians, and a D currently doing a residency. None feels that they are poorly paid. Don’t believe everything you hear about Canadian healthcare. Oh, and the best thing? Everyone’s covered.