<p>Drawl? Not really. Too much time as a kid in the Midwest following dad from base to base but I can when I need to ;). Big hat? On occasion. Boots? Often.</p>
<p>The “deer” I raise are non-native species. Some weigh about six-hundred pounds. Bambi? Deer farming can be more profitable (less unprofitable?) on poor pasture than sheep and goats.</p>
<p>If one of mine (not D’s) is in your yard-you’ll know it soon enough.:eek:</p>
<p>As to carolyn, she is gallivanting cross America-free as a bird, without a care, and probably without the ability to log on. It’s got to be killing her.She has extracted from me a promise to fill her in, but we’ve done very well on these threads , I think. </p>
<p>How is your patient today? Any better? I promise day 3 sucked but by day 5 the world begins to change. Hang in there. </p>
<p>On to D-she goes to volunteer at the ER tommorrow!! and she’s going to be seen by people she knows!! and she says it’s OK!! Major progress. She had lasagna today and did NOT run it through the mixer. She says she has to go slow and carefully but she can use her front teeth for the first time ever. Her back molars need to be pulled down to touch so she can grind better, but the surgeon says “the ortho can fix that. Easy” . LOL. Now , he has a drawl, big hat, boots, AND a big belt buckle. He’s from New Jersey.</p>
<p>Glad to hear everyone seems to be on the mend. One warning-- watch out for unexpected side effects of antibiotics (if any were given to prevent infection). My s. had his wisdom teeth out last summer and was given one dose (yes, only one dose) of Cleocin preventitively, to avoid infection. Unfortunately it killed off all the healthy flora and fauna in his gut, causing one bugaboo called C-difficile (“C-diff”) to proliferate, causing a nasty case of pseudomembranous colitis. He was hospitalized for 3 days. The severity of his illness is fatal in about 4% of cases. They thought at first that he had e-coli, which is pretty awful! We were fielding calls from the Department of Health from his hospital room! </p>
<p>While I don’t think what happened to him is extremely common, it is not rare either. Just watch your kiddos. This hits about 10 days after onset of the antibiotic.</p>
<p>Good to hear from you and hearing about your son’s progress. Give him big thumbs up for me. Even though third day seems to suck and it does - he is on the road to recovery. Like I relayed in my last post, it takes a couple of weeks and others too have said the same. In the meantime, I would get the biggest hand mirror I could find and every day have your son look into it to see just HOW BIG is head can get with the colors of bruising changing!! What a hoot in the midst of yuck!!! </p>
<p>One could even start drawing self portraits in color of how one is progressing. One day all black and blue, another green, another yey, yellow -which all means he is healing in good time and his body is working right on score. Amazing how the body repairs itself.</p>
<p>In all seriousness though - not quite yet. This is understandable!! He needs to sleep and rest. Take his pain meds and get lots of Mom time for his boo boos</p>
<p>My daughter is doing very well in spite of my detail writings of difficulties. Actually, from a front view she looks great (you should see her wedding pictures!) with just the slightest hint of a weak chin. On a profile though, it is more noticeable. It will be up to her in the future whether or not she wants a chin implant. As far as her teeth softening and starting to have dental implants placed - she is doing ok for the moment. I am sure as she ages this will become more complicated. But for Now and you can relate this to your son both my children have beautiful smiles with healthy looking front teeth and one would never know all that they have gone through. It remains to be seen if my S’s teeth begin to soften with age as mine and his sister have. I am counting on the genes of my husband to at least have one child who will have strong teeth as he ages!</p>
<p>I will continue to check in to see how your son is doing as well as you. </p>
<p>As for the deer C. I just love the idea!!! Hope all is going well your way and your daughter is on to full recovery and less swelling1</p>
<p>BHG,
Thinking about you and your son. Hopefully you have “peaked” on swelling etc. and now are on the way to recovery. My daughter is now at 4 1/2 weeks since her surgery and is doing really well. Still is not allowed to eat involving any chewing so all food is going in the blender. We have orientation at her college in a few weeks and she gave me her meal ticket lol. Will take instant breakfast etc. for her in case there is no smoothie bar near. Is your son allowing you to take pictures of swelling etc. My D would not let me, called herself the “elephant man” but her humor was evident when she said it. Did allow graduation pictures which were at 3 weeks post surgery. Just wanted you to know you are in my thoughts.<br>
Take Care</p>
<p>So kind of everyone to respond! Thank you. And Valerie, until I told him about your post and the importance of sleep, meds and recovery, my husband had NO idea that was necessary. This is how it went, Saturday Husband announces Son and he are going out to buy a laptop. Of course Son had other ideas, like SLEEPING . Unbelieveable how some folks don’t see the seriousness of anything. I didn’t say, ‘over my dead body’ but it’s a good thing I was here to vetoe the party idea the night after the operation.
Today is another bad day, huge swelling, and I appreciate your encouragement. Doctor said liquids for the first few days and then puree like mashed potatoes, etc. but I think what happened this evening was Son got hungry and he walked by and said to me, " I had some of that turkey." Now I think he meant the soft lunchmeat. Doctor said the plates would be in there firm but I have to encourage Son to take it slow tomorrow and not got after too much too soon. This whole experience still has me a little shaken. I hope it goes well.
MomZ: Do you think that’s right? Take it slow with the food? Right? No photos but that sounds like a good idea. I would not try it now though- he’s sleeping all the time, like, not well.
Thanks JYM, that terrible about your child’s experience! What a nightmare! Son had an antibiotic allergy reaction when he was given such for acne (small daily dose) a few years ago.The thing is, there are so many antibiotics nowadays. If they are allergic to one, they have another but then there are more opportunities to be allergic too. And I must remember to buy some yogurt and tell son about the importance of eating it. </p>
<p>Sorry to bore everyone with this day by day angst. Can’t think of anything else though right now.</p>
<p>Must be nifty to live on a ranch Curmudgeon. I had a friend once who was from Texas. Her husband was a transferred pilot and she had the most BEAUTIFUL clothes and BIG hair and BIG jewelry. And she would say to me, “my daddy is a rannnnnnncher.” We had a blast together until she moved again.</p>
<p>BHG-
You’re welcome. Sounds like you’ve got a handle on everything. One q- your post above-- Her dad was the rancher and h the pilot?? Did she leave the ranch? (Or as they say, how did they keep her down on the farm, after she’s seen Paris?)</p>
<p>BHG
Glad to hear your son wants to eat. Took some time for my daughter to want food. Now she wants to eat but not blended foods like she is allowed. I reccomend the drinkable yogurts as they have been easy for my daughter to consume. With the bands holding the teeth together she can not use a spoon. You are correct in taking it slow, one day at a time. As others have said sleep is necessary so lots of naps are to be expected. My daughter watched a lot of DVDs at this point. It was hard for her to read as the swelling affected her eyes. We got the early seasons of Gilmore Girls and her sister joined us for “girl” tv.
Hang in There :)</p>
<p>MOMZ; Sounds good. Is your daughter missing the summer- being so inactive and recuperating? Mine is, too. Swelling, that’s what has happened here. Son woke up today with face so swollen his eyes were swollen shut.I think our swelling here hasn’t peaked yet? And he is really getting thin, when he bends over I can see his ribs and spine through his shirt. Milkshakes every day, plenty of soup, yogurt drinks.He just won’t consume enough.Says he is not hungry.
We are having a problem with numbness. Did anyone have that also?</p>
<p>Yep. D is still having a circle of numbness covering the middle of the bottom lip and the center of the chin. Some sensation loss along the jaw line, not real bad. Her appetite is good. “Jostling” around in a car is VERY painful still and any contact with her jaw, like an accidental bump by a pet, sends her screaming . Keep your spirits up . Once the swelling peaks , it will start getting better. Are you trying the hot pack to stimulate blood flow? Seemed counterintuitive to me, but D followed the protocol religiously and it seemed to help.</p>
<p>'Mudge, I hope the numbness goes away. Apparently similar effects can happen if a nerve gets nicked whilst removing wisdom teeth. Of particular terror to wind players.</p>
<p>TheDad, D is a tuba section leader. Her lip is cause for grave concern at the band hall. At least her best friend is also a tuba section leader. Oh wait. She just broke her arm.:eek: I bet the band director is scrambling the jets.</p>
<p>Ugh! Because my son was/is suffering from a benign spinal tumor (for his entire senior year), his dental visit in May with pictures of two bottom wisdom teeth coming in on the side in his lower jaw and two top ones not coming in at all…I gulped and said, “no way, today.” “It can wait.” He has no tooth pain. Makes me nervous since he is an oboist. After a painful biopsy, his spinal problem seems to be somewhat receding. Yeah! The bottom jaw and its teeth can wait for a little while. But from experience, I am suffering with all of you…in pain. May the pain, swelling be without you!</p>
<p>Our 16yr old S will also require oral surgery to realign his jaw. In his case he has a lower jaw that struts out a bit too much. Surgeon says once he stops (or slows) growing, they will want to break his jaw and realign it to give him the proper bite. Right now, we are looking at timing. Summer is our number 1 choice. Nice to read about others in the same situation. On a side note, noticed that our oral surgeon’s boat is aptly named “Jaw Breaker.”</p>
<p>In my area, it used to be very common, but most insurances are either not covering it or the reimbursements are so low that the oral surgeons don’t want to do it any longer. That is truly a shame because it definitely improves the quality of life for those with jaw discrepancies. In the long run, your kids who had this necessary surgery will be much better off.</p>
<p>Just throwing this out there. I know nothing about dentistry. A friends son whose teeth were fine for yrs including several yrs in braces in high school came home beginning of senior yr of college and went to the dentist since he was having jaw problems. His lower jaw grew while the upper stayed the same. As the mother describes it his jaw line looks fine but he had not molar contact and was limited in what he could eat. He was told he needed braces for a yr and then jaw surgery. It put a huge stumbling block in his future plans. His Mom mentioned it to her chiropractor who said she had had some luck with younger kids with this problem. They figure they had nothing to lose by trying it. He has had enough movement with her loosing up the upper jaw that he now has some molar to molar contact and is able to chew his food again. They don’t know what will happen long term but I thought I would just throw it out there.</p>
<p>Mom60; I think he will also need the surgery discussed here. I can’t imagine a chiropractor solving this problem. Now I don’t want to offend any chiropractors, but my Hus is a malpractice attorney and he has seen many suits against them - blood clots formed in arteries from all the jostling resulting in strokes and sometimes death. Hus has warned us not to have teens in their offfice, he’s seen too much. Son had the same problem, teeth were starting to badly misalign and the othodontist could not guarantee success without the surgery.
Lukester; I didn’t know the surgery was common. I found these folks here and they are the only people I know who have kids who have had it. I am VERY grateful for their support and advice. All the surgery is covered by our insurance, just not any plastic surgery with it like work on the chin.</p>
<p>Thanks for letting me know about the numbness. Son says it has improved.Today son’s cheeks are turning…green?..or is that blue/yellow?
Curmudgeon; Tuba!!!Can’t see she will be able to play in the Fall, but maybe by having early in June, maybe she will!!!</p>
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<li><p>nerve regeneration is slow but do not give up hope. It keeps improving. Even swelling can lead to numbness.</p></li>
<li><p>I had a jaw problem but mine was fixable with cutting edge orthodontia. My Upper palate was too narrow to allow my lower jaw to come forward intot he correct position, hence overbite. My molars contacted too much, so much so that they had never grown in fully-- lower than the rest of my teeth. </p></li>
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<p>My dentist gave me expanding retainers (upper) that cranked open bit by bit. Then a bianator to retrain my bite, bringing my lower jaw forward. Then regular ortho to reallign teeth and bring molars together. 2 years of it but no surgery. I think there are varying degrees of these conditions and some have to be dealt with surgically.</p>
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<li> FYI sidebar: evidently bottle, thumb & pacifier use contribute to my narrow upper palate problem-- it is uncommon in an exclusively breastfed population.</li>
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