Too sad.
So sad.
From Twitter:
Mark Hamill just wrote a touching tribute on facebook. I apologize if I can’t post this but I can’t find a link to the story yet other than facebook.
I’m crying all over again.
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It might just be clickbait but some websites are posting that Steve Martin has come under fire for saying ‘my beautiful friend, Carrie.’ What? How does someone interpret that sentiment as sexist? Apparently he also said “witty and bright” but some folks don’t like the order in which he made the comments. Whom on Earth is that nearsighted?
Geez, @lakewashington, I think some people need to get a life, I think they need to give it a rest, not everything is an expression of the patriarchy limiting women sigh. You can call people, men or women, beautiful, and it isn’t just about looks, the term beautiful can express, as in Martin’s case, ‘a beautiful friendship’, as in "louie, I think this is the start of a beautiful friendship’ in “Casablanca” at the end. Was Bogart’s character shallowly classifying Louie as a beautiful body with nothing else there?
I think the Steve Martin tweet praised her looks, then non-physical characteristics as an afterthought. I thought it came off as at least mildly mysoginist.
The tweet was -
“When I was a young man, Carrie Fisher was the most beautiful creature I had ever seen. She turned out to be witty and bright as well.”
I think people overreacted to it, unnecessarily. By all accounts, they were good friends, and I imagine, with the limitations of Twitter, he was saying those things as a compliment.
I thought the tweet was fine, I don’t seek to be offended. She was beautiful, he was expressing the common public perception followed by what he learnt as her friend
Not to mention that as a young person, people’s first impressions are based on looks, as much as we try and deny it later:)
I agree that some people need to get a life.
Interesting article about tobacco contributing to Carrie Fisher’s heart attack.
http://vancouversun.com/opinion/opinion-princess-leia-ultimately-killed-by-the-real-darth-vader
Himom, that article is purely speculative. The writer has no idea whatsoever whether tobacco had anything to do with Carrie Fisher’s heart attack. Maybe it did; maybe it didn’t.
I didn’t realize she was a lifelong smoker. If true, it’s certainly highly likely that it contributed, but as said above, we certainly don’t know that for sure.
Being a lifelong smoker increases many health risks, including heart, diabetes, and of course lung disease and cancer. The article is just a way of highlighting the link between longtime tobacco smoke and fatal heart attack at relatively young age.
@donnal:
Carrie Fisher was a heavy smoker, had been since she was young, and given the direct causal relationship between smoking and heart disease that the article points out, the likelyhood that smoking played a direct role in her death is not exactly small. Obviously, things like drug use could have played a role, cocaine destroys heart cells for example.
Not sure how interesting that is, though, given that the risks to health with smoking were known as far back as the 1930’s, and that it wasn’t until after the surgeon general’s report in 1964 that the AMA and other doctor’s groups accepted that smoking was a severe health risk (not a big surprise, through the late 1950’s the AMA and doctor’s groups used to routinely endorse cigarettes, and when the first filter cigarettes came out, they were often promoted by doctors as being ‘safer’; not to mention that into the 1960’s some doctors would advice patients that needed to lose weight to take up smoking).
Sure, there are a lot of reasons why someone’s heart would stop, she was on an airplane and women have a larger risk of developing blood clots, she could have developed a blood clot that went to her heart and killed her, she could have had an allergic reaction, but given her history as a long time, heavy smoker, it is kind of like a quote from a Damon Runyon story “Rusty tells me he is on business in Philadelphia and just gets back. I was just reading in the paper that Gloomy Gus Smallwood, the bookie, gets rubbed out in Philadelphia. I am not saying Rusty does this, but with Rusty in Philadelphia and Gus gets iced, well…”
I got several i-Tunes gift cards for Christmas. Today, I purchased a couple of audiobooks by Carrie Fisher. I’m currently listening to Wishful Drinking. Wow, did she have a way with words. She says things in a way I would never think of. And her words are witty, funny, endearing, insightful, articulate, etc. She was SO intelligent. What a loss.