<p>what I can’t get over is a 61 year old man being described as “elderly”.
Most of us won’t be retiring till we are 67, my spouse is a just a few years younger ( than 61) and he doesn’t even consider himself * middle aged* and 50 is what 30 used to be.</p>
<p>I just feel that by painting him as elderly, they are trying to make him seem more vulnerable- which he very well may be- but he also sounded eager to instll his own penalty, not confused.</p>
<p>If we all had good neighbors like Joe Horn, that might give potential burglars something to think about before engaging in their criminal activities. Too often, waiting for the police allows the burglars to make good on their escape. The burglars know this and it encourages their criminal activities.</p>
<p>Whoa, 61 years old is ELDERLY??? DH turns 61 next month.</p>
<p>I lived in Houston for several years. We lived in 4 different homes. All were broken into. Twice we were home with guests when the breakins were attempted. Only place I’ve ever lived that the hard-working, honest people lived behind bars and the creeps and thieves ran free… </p>
<p>Houston Chronicle on Nov. 26 2007 has updates.</p>
<p>This is a very hard case in my mind. On one hand you have a man that sounds like he was itching to put their lives away. On the other hand the country is far better off without those two creeps. Its going to be interesting to see what happens.</p>
<p>we have break ins in Seattle too.
My sister was home when someone broke in & she was sexually assaulted.
My neighbors house was broken in during the day ( while she was away), and my car was broken into.
Our neighbors cars were vandalized, another neighbors truck had his work toolbox stolen, another neighbor had guns stolen out of his house.</p>
<p>However- I do not think the solution is for all of us to sit on the front porch with a Remington across our lap.</p>
<p>I often hear an aquaintance who is a long term advocate in the minority community say that if we don’t give these kids an education and a job, they are going to take what they need from us. Implying that we are pushing them to break the law.</p>
<p>I can understand the visceral urges to stand up for our selves, when I confronted the kid that broke into my van ( different than when my purse and everything in it was stolen from my Jeep), if I had, had a gun, I might have fired.
But that is precisely why I don’t have one.
I don’t want that to be my legacy.</p>
<p>However, something like this- I am much more in agreement with.</p>
<p>Raping someone on crutches?
[Police:</a> Good Samaritans Stop Rape In Progress - News Story - KPTV Portland](<a href=“http://www.kptv.com/news/14441750/detail.html]Police:”>http://www.kptv.com/news/14441750/detail.html)</p>
<p>Philadelphia’s homicide rate over the past couple of years is about 30 per 100,000. I think Baltimore is about the same, but Baltimore represents a much larger percentage of Maryland’s population than Philadelphia does of Pennsylvania’s. Pennsylvania actually has a huge rural population – larger than Texas’ – which is part of why it has lax gun laws.</p>
<p>Well perhaps if you had neighbors like Joe Horn, some of those incidents could of been avoided. I’m sure your sister wouldn’t mind if someone shot the man who was assaulting her in the face.</p>
<p>Many people follow religions that don’t believe an eye for an eye.</p>
<p>I have also been raped and while that was horrible, I also don’t think that rape deserves the death penalty.
( However, I wouldn’t have minded him having the same experience in jail[al’la Sublime](<a href=“http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taPMDdQ67zg”>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taPMDdQ67zg</a>) )
While I think everyone should have skills like self defense training, first aid, etc, people also need to bear responsiblity by locking their doors, not leaving expensive items in plain sight, keys in ignition etc.</p>
<p>what if the men weren’t robbers…how did this guy know FOR SURE they were guilty AT THE TIME he put bullets in them…</p>
<p>and when is deadly force, execution in this case, okay for burglary?</p>
<p>what, lets just shot em all…</p>
<p>My friends son, came into town a few weeks ago,needed something from his own home, forgot his key, so jumped the fence, climbed up the balcony and went in through the back deck door, and then came out the front door with a bag of his stuff</p>
<p>If he had a neighbor like this vigilanty, my friend’s son could be dead…to the stranger, he looked like a burglar…but he wasn’t</p>
<p>I think it is darn scary when people think its okay to shut the maybe guilty, the maybe burglar…why bother with courts?</p>
<p>Look, I wouldn’t mind the two of them getting shot, because that would ensure they wouldn’t be doing that kind of robbery again. But I would object to the guy shooting them, with all the issues of vigilante justice that it entails.</p>
<p>I believe Horn watched the men for several minutes and observed them making trips into and out of the house, at one point, if memory serves, saying one was carrying a big black trash bag. I don’t know if B&E and burglary are felonies but he wasn’t shooting his neighbor’s family member who broke into the house because he forgot the keys.</p>
<p>I dislike blaming the victim but these guys were breaking the law. According to the law, I don’t believe he was within it, but I would be surprised by an indictment. He is more likely to evoke sympathy from the jury than the burglars. It wasn’t an issue of race, it was an issue of criminality. His state of mind may have been reckless at the time but it didn’t appear to me to be racist.</p>
<p>Its too bad he wasn’t the neighbor of the doctor from CT whose family was killed a couple of months ago.</p>
<p>so why bother having courts, or jails…just giant morgues so your neighbors and shot and kill people because they THINK they saw a crime</p>
<p>too bad about that nasty constitution thing, what were the founding fathers thinking</p>
<p>So what do you guys suggest for Horn as a punishment. I personally think he should have some jail time, possibly 1-5 years. What do you think?</p>
<p>I think awarding him the key to the city is a fair punishment.</p>
<p>Or reward, sorry UriA702</p>