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You said it. Some people post on threads, not because they are truly interested but, rather, because they like the “sound” of their own voice.</p>
<p>kleibo… i saw an interview by him and when he was asked what he thought happened he said… lets put it this way, casey was the last one to be seen with caylee</p>
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<p>And some speak of those who are “obsessed” with this case, yet have more posts on the subject than most of the other members combined.</p>
<p>When speaking about the drowning - Jose Baez states in his opening: “On June 16, 2008, Casey was home with Caylee and so was her father. Early morning hours, the exact time is not known, it could have been early afternoon… early morning… actually, it was the early morning hours.” </p>
<p>I wonder why he kept jumping around with the time. First it was “early morning”, then it was “the exact time is not known”, then “could have been early afternoon”, then he ends “actually it was early morning hours”. </p>
<p>It could have been a stumble if he stuck with “the exact time is unknown” or “early afternoon” – he had to make SURE that George was there. And since George left for work at 2:30 – he had to back track to early morning hours.</p>
<p>That statement alone would have made me think a bit. You know when people aren’t exactly telling the truth and they start fumbling and bumbling over their words. I have seen that Baez clip a few times and I think that every time. </p>
<p>No attacks needed – just having conversation. :)</p>
<p>kleibo…someone on here posted something about a phone call casey made around 4pm and caylee could be heard in the background…so i dont know how that works if george actually worked that day. i dont know if that was brought up in trial or not…dont remember it in closing arguments</p>
<p>*Fake murders" to cover other cause of death?</p>
<p>Alabama-- Major Bashinsky
Kentucy-- census worker
Indiana – James Sapinsky*</p>
<p>Man, you’re reaching here. I know that Bashinsky and Sapinsky committed suicide and wanted it to look like murder. That is very different. That isn’t unusual …people do that for other reasons…life insurance for survivors, less scandal, etc. </p>
<p>Find an example where a child accidentally dies and the parent rigs the situation to look like a murder. And then goes partying.</p>
<p>I am convinced that George Anthony needs to be arrested in the case of that kid who used a hammer to bludgeon his parents’ bodies (after he pulled them from the pool) because certainly George had a hammer in his garage.</p>
<p>Don’t be a hater, Mom2. You might incite something.</p>
<p>Maybe in that horrific case of the teen in FL that just happened, his defense will say he found his parents dead of an accident and he covered it up by bludgeoning them to look like a murder, and then he too went partying… in the next room. Stranger things have happened. :rolleyes:</p>
<p>^^Such as what? Tacky…</p>
<p>what scares me is that it seems that there may be a small group of people, who commit certain crimes, like the teen who just killed his parents, for the notoriety. not surprising, he commited this murder a day after Casey was released from jail. saw video of him, snapping his gum, appearing to enjoy the limelight. chilling, truly chilling. we need to give these people less attention, really we do. forensic experts have said we give too much hype, which can inadvertently “motivate” a particularly sick type. it’s almost like they think it’s a reality show, and not real life.</p>
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That is true and has a lot to do with brain development. Teens don’t view death as permanent. I mean, of course they will say they understand but many lack the brain development to completely comprehend the permanence of death. That’s why suicide is such a risk during the teen years. The young person may even fantasize about everybody crying at the funeral and they can watch it from the beyond. I imagine that murder can happen in a similar way. A teen is rebellious and either snaps one day or even plots to murder his family. He might even fantasize about the attention he will get and what a bad a$$ he is but, developmentally he may not be able to comprehend the permanence and significance of his actions. </p>
<p>There was a story online the other day about a mom (can’t remember the state) who was murdered by her children on Christmas day because she wanted to play a board game and they didn’t. They buried her in the back yard.</p>
<p>The world is looking more and more like a Stephen King novel every day.</p>
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<p>And your self righteous attitude is any different??? </p>
<p>Even if you do have a right (which actually does not exist) to hate what makes you think it is right? Why do you defend it so???</p>
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<p>Yet the majority of teen murders don’t fall into this category. The majority are pre-planned vicious crimes with concrete motives. Not whimsical, “misunderstanding of death” reactions due to hormones.</p>
<p>The under-developed brain theories, while nice, don’t pan out because the brain is not fully developed until the mid 20s… Yet older teens and young adults understand death quite well.</p>
<p>Though I may just like the sound of my self righteous voice so uhm…</p>
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<p>This won’t happen. People usually won’t back down when they are wrong. They’ll just band with other like minded people and try to use social pressure to make others back down as I’m sure you are noticing.</p>
<p>Kinda like mobs… Well Dang… A mob, on CC even… ;)</p>
<p>I admit to being obsessed with the Casey Anthony “story” but now that the trial’s over I’m sick of it. Do I care if she’s in Ohio, LA or back in Fla? Not really. I am more interested in this horrible murder in Port St. LUcie, though, and don’t believe that he has been an angel all these years. Someone should ask his classmates what kind of kid he has been.</p>
<p>"This won’t happen. People usually won’t back down when they are wrong. They’ll just band with other like minded people and try to use social pressure to make others back down as I’m sure you are noticing.</p>
<p>Kinda like mobs… Well Dang… A mob, on CC even… "</p>
<p>Yeah - that self righteous mob is a scary one… LOL!!</p>
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<p>It is your opinion that those here that don’t share YOUR views on this subject are “wrong.” Opposing viewpoints to yours are not wrong, but merely differ from your views. </p>
<p>The viewpoint that many (not all) share on this thread is that Casey Anthony had something to do with the death of her child and is not innocent of wrongdoing, though the jury was unable to find her guilty of the charges beyond a reasonable doubt. Even some jurors share this view. Those that have this view are not “wrong,” even if you don’t have this view. They are entitled to believe what they wish and to form an opinion about this case that was a public case. You have a viewpoint that you have freely shared and others have a viewpoint and their viewpoint isn’t any more “wrong” than yours. Not asking you to “back down” and so stop asking some of us to “back down.”</p>
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<p>There is no “mob” on CC. This is a discussion forum! Discussion of various viewpoints is the point, and civil discussion with respect is expected. If that doesn’t interest you to read various viewpoints, and heck, to even be discussing Casey Anthony in the first place, don’t read/post. You are welcome to post and share your views but stop putting down others who hold a different view. You’d be respected more by saying that you feel such and such about the case and not telling others they are “wrong” or a “mob” or “inciting riots.” :rolleyes:</p>
<p>Yeah… Scary mobs… </p>
<p>"Also, a grieving mob turns violent against two journalists at the scene of a crime. No, this isn<code>t a foreign entanglement. It</code>s happening here in the U.S. of A. What drove this crowd to attack? I`ll have the shocking video. "
[CNN.com</a> - Transcripts](<a href=“http://www.cnnstudentnews.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1102/21/ijvm.01.html]CNN.com”>http://www.cnnstudentnews.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1102/21/ijvm.01.html) (Only the transcript, can’t find the story._</p>
<p>I did say this is how it starts. 
Normal people just discussing and angry.</p>
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<p>As I wrote in my post 2039, mobs turning violent may well start out by discussions by angry people. But you cannot ALSO conclude that all discussions that view an issue or a person negatively turn into angry violent mobs. I like how in our country that citizens are afforded the right to discuss varying viewpoints and to discuss the news of the day. That is what is happening here. </p>
<p>Also, many people in this discussion thread are NOT “angry,”…including myself. I just have an opinion about the case since the case was in the news. I don’t have anger about it though.</p>
<p>Casey Anthony is an individual whom I don’t support. Same with the teenager in FL who allegedly just murdered his parents and held a party in his home with his dead parents in the next room. I don’t support the man who admitted to brutally murdering Leiby Kretzky, an 8 year old boy, in Brooklyn. </p>
<p>The fact that Casey Anthony was found not guilty as charged, or even the fact that OJ was found not guilty, doesn’t mean I don’t have a right to my opinion about the case and about the defendant whom I don’t wish to support. I still respect the trial system. It doesn’t mean that every guilty person (in reality, not legally) is always found guilty or that every innocent person is always found innocent. It’s not foolproof, but it is a system that works well a lot of the time.</p>
<p>I support the jury system and the burden and standards of proof in criminal cases. I support the 5th Amendment.</p>
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<p>Either all opinions, including mine, are welcome or they are not. Are they? Then you have my opinion. If you have the right to <insert whatever=“” here=“”> I surely have the right to point out people that are <insert whatever=“” here=“”>.</insert></insert></p>
<p>Plus, if you read back I CLEARLY stated (twice) that I did not consider you to be one of the hateful people… Yet you keep going back to the “I am not angry or hateful bit.” I never said you were… Nor did I say everyone was. I said the majority of those that are hateful here. The Majority… Of those people that are hateful… here. </p>
<p>If I was being uncivil I would say the outrage and dislike of Casey Anthony, while your right, is morally despicable and disgusting and is never justified. Instead I pointed out that hate leads to violence, which it does, and that the facebook groups and some people here (which you can’t deny, though I didn’t point out any in particular) are hateful. I could just re-post the threads but I don’t need to because you are quite aware of them. This in turn led to some get righteous over the supposed accusation that all here are hateful when reading my posts you can clearly glean that I meant all of the ones that where hating, and not all of the people. </p>
<p>The fact that some of the posters, though not the majority agree with me, means that my point is valid. The fact that several people, now to include you, keep vociferously trying to shut me up (while simultaneously saying all opinions are welcomed when clearly they aren’t) constitutes a mob. </p>
<p>Mob - Dictionary.com
3.Noun-any group or collection of persons or things.
11.Verb-to crowd around noisily, as from curiosity or hostility:</p>
<p>My opinion gathered a crowd and the majority of that crowd has been hostile. Am I misunderstanding the definition of mob?</p>
<p>So… To sum up… Hate does cause violence. There HAS been much hate here. The fact that some of the “haters” disagree is as irrelevant as sexual harassers not agreeing that their behavior is harassment. The response to pointing out the hate has been more… hate. The fact that multiple people, instead of disagreeing with, or ignoring my opinion, decided to jump in and condemn it and myself definitively constitutes mob behavior thus proving my point.</p>
<p>If they dislike me enough to behave in such a manner for merely expressing my opinion about their opinion then my claim of hate really isn’t that far-fetched…</p>
<p>But, like someone said before, I am indeed belaboring the point. I’ve made it and it stuck. Moving along now…</p>