Casey Anthony?

[xSlacker]

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I support the jury system and the burden and standards of proof in criminal cases. I support the 5th Amendment.

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<p>I do as well. ;)</p>

[soozievt]

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Either all opinions, including mine, are welcome or they are not. Are they? Then you have my opinion. If you have the right to <insert whatever=“” here=“”> I surely have the right to point out people that are <insert whatever=“” here=“”>.

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<p>Here’s the difference, xSlacker…ALL opinions about an issue are welcome. For example, people commenting about the Casey Anthony case and their views of it or of her are fine. But what you are doing and what you should NOT be doing is “point out that people are ____________.” Ya see, the guidelines for posting on CC are to give opinions and views about TOPICS (which may include public figures) but NOT to give views about other MEMBERS. So, while many of us are opining about the Anthony case, you are commenting about the MEMBERS saying they are “wrong” or they are “haters” or they are “a mob” or “inciting violence.” Read over the terms of service because this is where the difference lies. You are surely welcome by others here to voice a view about the case or about Ms. Anthony, but not about other members. </p>

<p>Further, on your point about “hate,”…I have seen very little hate voiced here on this discussion forum and would never liken it to the kinds of posts on the “hate Casey Anthony” FB pages (you have lumped these together). In fact, I find the discourse here on CC to be quite civil and respectful most of the times and people are sharing opinions. If they do not support Casey Anthony and feel she is guilty of wrongdoing, it doesn’t mean they hate her and want to lash back at her with harm or violence.</p>

[milkandsugar]

<p>Surely, xslackers posts can be labelled as hateful, his posts keeps trying to insight anger amongst members and is quite an argumentative type. Thank God there is an ignore function here. His arguments aren’t even engaging, just punitive and arrogant.
I think Casey Anthony was the sole perpetrator of the crime. I Don’t care what the jury thought. Thats my opinion. However, I respect the process of law. But I would never hire her, nor have her babysit my children.</p>

[xSlacker]

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Ya see, the guidelines for posting on CC are to give opinions and views about TOPICS (which may include public figures) but NOT to give views about other MEMBERS.

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<p>So… I’m confused…</p>

<p>A general statement not directed at anyone in particular is bad but the very directed personal attacks are not??? </p>

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xSlacker, just can the snark. People who cannot express themselves clearly–“built of my previous statement”? In what universe is that a grammatically-correct phrase?–should not presume to condescend to others.

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Surely, xslackers posts can be labelled as hateful, his posts keeps trying to insight anger amongst members and is quite an argumentative type. Thank God there is an ignore function here. His arguments aren’t even engaging, just punitive and arrogant.

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<p>So… you were saying?</p>

[milkandsugar]

<p>Sooziet is right and chooses to take the high road. Me, meh, not so much. I dish what I get.</p>

[xSlacker]

<p>If you say so… Though I don’t recall ever addressing you or quoting you.</p>

<p>Which leads me back to my point…</p>

[kleibo]

<p>Xslacker - you addressed me and said I was morally wrong for wanting a “long, hard road” for Casey.</p>

<p>You also stated “I am also asserting that this animosity, and it IS animosity, leads to violence.”</p>

<p>And finally you stated: </p>

<p>A man that thinks hateful thoughts becomes hateful. FACT
Hate leads to violence. FACT</p>

<p>Sounds pretty personal to me.</p>

<p>Once again I will elaborate – From my post 1981</p>

<p>I know for myself and a lot of others here that have stated that they believe that Casey had something to do with Caylee’s death that they also would not want any harm to come to Casey because of the verdict. I also, however, do not wish her a charmed, wealthy, care-free life either. I don’t like her and I wish her a long, hard road and that’s it."</p>

<p>I said I don’t like her – not that I hated her. I don’t like a lot of people. Yeah, especially those really annoying ones.</p>

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@soozievt

…Casey Anthony had something to do with the death of her child and is not innocent of wrongdoing, though the jury was unable to find her guilty of the charges beyond a reasonable doubt.

With what little I know about the case, I’m inclined to agree with that statement. But I don’t think that’s significant or even interesting, beyond the fact that the jury did their job conscientiously and in the end did the right thing, which was to decline to convict a person who had not been proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. </p>

<p>What is significant and interesting is the way a significant number of people obsess over it and can’t let go. (And I think you know I’m not talking about you, soozievt) The death threats, the Facebook pages, and, yes, posts here in this thread, strike me as dangerously off-kilter. When people are unable to rationally assess the significance of events to the point that they obsess over something which does not affect them personally and has little significance in the overall scheme of American life they can be easily manipulated. And that’s what I see happening and that’s what I find interesting and significant about the sound and fury surrounding this case. Example:

@mom2collegekids

I am convinced that George Anthony needs to be arrested in the case of that kid who used a hammer to bludgeon his parents’ bodies (after he pulled them from the pool) because certainly George had a hammer in his garage.

Why would someone post something like this? The “witty” comment is just another way to vent an inappropriate fixation on this case. I really think that those of you who are still seething over the verdict should take some time to engage in serious reflection on why you can’t let it go. That is something that is actually important.</p>

[momof3greatgirls]

<p>I think the reason people can not let it go is because we failed this child by not convicting the people responsible for her death. To have such lax laws that would allow a child to be either killed or die some other tragic death and not have to report in a timely manner the child missing/dead is beyond crazy to most of us. We failed the child and we are all guilty for not protecting her. </p>

<p>I do think some of us just want to make sure it never ever happens again.</p>

[xSlacker]

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Xslacker - you addressed me and said I was morally wrong…

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<p>You are correct. I do not decry the personal arguments (so no hypocrisy) as sometimes they are necessary to make the point. I merely point out the double standard that seems to apply where quite a few people debate this way with impunity, others back them, and yet others are challenged for debating this way.</p>

<p>BTW - Annoyance IS anger… </p>

<p>Dalai Llama - This is because anger eclipses the best part of our brain: its rationality. </p>

<p><a href=“http://www.dalailama.com/messages/compassion[/url]”>http://www.dalailama.com/messages/compassion&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Anger without rationality is what? Hate…</p>

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What is significant and interesting is the way a significant number of people obsess over it and can’t let go. (And I think you know I’m not talking about you, soozievt) The death threats, the Facebook pages, and, yes, posts here in this thread, strike me as dangerously off-kilter. When people are unable to rationally assess the significance of events to the point that they obsess over something which does not affect them personally

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<p>My one and only point throughout the thread. Though apparently if I say “that” it’s wrong.</p>

[EPTR]

<p>I guess I don’t understand why the act of posting here, even regularly, is equivalent to being “obsessed” with the case. I’m pretty sure I’m not obsessed with the case and I know that i don’t hate Casey Anthony. I don’t generally hate people that I don’t know and who don’t effect me directly. I know that I work full time (although I am off for the summer :)), am in grad school, have a family to care for, an aging parent and a terminally ill friend. Those are the things that, if I were going to obsess over anything, I would obsess over those. But I don’t.</p>

<p>This case is interesting to me because I am interested in human behavior and motivation and I am interested in the legal system (although as a very remedial and uninformed observer).</p>

<p>I take issue with people who feel the need to judge the participants in the thread. We have every right to express ourselves without being told we are “wrong” or “haters”.</p>

<p>I don’t think, slacker, that you even read most of the posts thoroughly, unless you feel challenged.
For example, you maintain that none of the posters are willing to reconsider their position and yet, i stated, in an earlier post that, given, evidence that the prosecution exaggerated the evidence of Casey’s internet searches, I would have to reconsider my position on the nature of her involvement.</p>

<p>I also posted a definition of “hate speech” that conflicts with your use of the term. Perhaps you should take your own advice and turn your analytical skills inward for a bit.</p>

[jsanche32]

<p>What we have in this thread is a lot of Nancy Grace clones acting all self-righteous now that their double speak has been pointed out.</p>

[milkandsugar]

<p>^Give me a break. Why don’t the people who are sick of the so called “hatred” go somewhere else and post. If you dont like it, leave. All the moral righteous indignation is amazing. Quoting the Dali lama and talking about MLK. SMH.</p>

[EPTR]

<p>Who said there is an “ignore” button? Where is it?</p>

[kleibo]

<p>xslacker - Awww - I don’t hate you - I love debate. And my annoyance is not angry - most of the time I’m writing you, I’m smiling. You have no enemy here. I enjoy the banter.</p>

[07DAD]

<p>Seems the Nancy Grace factor is making its way into other cases. </p>

<p>[Michael</a> Jackson’s doctor wants jury sequestered, from Nancy Grace - latimes.com](<a href=“Archive blogs”>Archive blogs)</p>

<p>I find it hard to believe that all the Casey Anthony pile on is due to having failed a small child. The homicide rate for young children is significant. Where is the outrage and efforts for all these other killings?</p>

<p><a href=“https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/ojjdp/187239.pdf[/url]”>https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/ojjdp/187239.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

[EPTR]

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What we have in this thread is a lot of Nancy Grace clones acting all self-righteous now that their double speak has been pointed out

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<p>I agree. Oh, wait…who are you referring to?</p>

[milkandsugar]

<p>Believe it or not Nancy Grace, has always made the plight of missing and murdered children one of her priorities.</p>

[jsanche32]

<p>Nobody really. I made a general statement to see how certain people would react to it. </p>

<p>It’s always telling to see how people respond to a general statement because its usually the ones that are very annoyed by it(because they think it applies to them), that end up reacting rather strongly.</p>

[xSlacker]

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Believe it or not Nancy Grace, has always made the plight of missing and murdered children one of her priorities.

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<p>You mean one of her paydays… Pfft…</p>

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^Give me a f…ing break. Why don’t the people who are sick of the so called “hatred” go somewhere else and post. If you dont like it, leave. All the moral righteous indignation is amazing. Quoting the Dali lama and talking about MLK. SMDH.

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<p>Not my fault you don’t like what the Dalai Lama said… Pfft… “If you dont like it, leave.” I believe you said?</p>

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Nobody really. I made a general statement to see how certain people would react to it.</p>

<p>It’s always telling to see how people respond to a general statement because its usually the ones that are very annoyed by it(because they think it applies to them), that end up reacting rather strongly.

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<p>You are reading my mind at every turn… :D</p>