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Yuh, just THINK what that means about our supposed “News” coverage on TV!</p>
<p>xSlacker: Is it really so bad for people to hate this woman? She basically admitted that she was, at the very least, involved in the body disposal process, and we all know how gruesome that was. I think that alone is pretty deplorable, especially when you consider the 31-day wait.</p>
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<p>Since an “accident” is not within “culpable negligence” as defined in the jury charge, the above statement expresses reasonable doubt as to all three charges against Casey that related to Caylee’s demise.</p>
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<p>1) Hate hurts you more than the person you hate.
2) It’s not healthy. Emotionally, psychologically or spiritually.
3) Showing your children that it is ok to hate makes you a crappy parent a la Casey…
4) About 50 other reasons not to hate…</p>
<p>You should forgive. Heck, I’m not even religious or spiritual and I know that. :D</p>
<p>You would think adults would figure that out…</p>
<p>Just because something’s unhealthy or hard doesn’t mean we shouldn’t do it. I see no reason to forgive someone who is so depraved and selfish. That little girl had a life ahead of her that she can no longer participate in. Just a difference of opinion, of course, but killing innocent children is not something I think can be so easily overlooked and forgiven.</p>
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<p>She was found not guilty of murder. I’m saying that she admits to involvement in an accidental death and a cover up that included staging a murder. While found innocent of the charges, she isn’t innocent of doing what she claims to have done, which may not be murder, but isn’t exactly OK either. Covering up an accidental death and staging it to be a murder, improperly disposing of the body and not reporting the death and lying about it all, is also wrong. She is not innocent of wrongdoing is what I meant.</p>
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<p>You mistake what we should do with what YOU do. That’s your character flaw. </p>
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<p>Plenty of people forgive their attackers. Plenty of people forgive those that kill their children. The first ones that come to mind are the Amish families in the Pa. shooting…</p>
<p>No one said life is supposed to be easy…</p>
<p>Ohhh nice quote…</p>
<p>“Hatred is the coward’s revenge for being intimidated.” George Bernard Shaw… ;)</p>
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<p>I do understand that’s what happened in the trial. I’m just saying that outside of the trial itself, and speaking of what may have happened to Caylee Anthony, is that Casey was involved in either an accidental death situation or an intended death situation with her child. I think both are possible and plausible in reality (not talking of the court case as to what she was charged with). </p>
<p>I also think that the scenario cptofthehouse mentions is VERY plausible, though we cannot prove it.</p>
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<p>Thanks, I admittedly didn’t quite state the wording correctly in my statement.</p>
<p>xSlacker, you’re just mincing words for the sake of it. You literally <em>just</em> said “You should forgive. Heck, I’m not even religious or spiritual and I know that” and then respond to my post with “You mistake what we should do with what YOU do. That’s your character flaw.”</p>
<p>So, I put your own logic back on you: You mistake what I should do with what <em>you</em> do. I already said explicitly that this was just a difference of opinion. You’re either being needlessly pedantic or you’re not reading what’s being said to you.</p>
<p>"Plenty of people forgive their attackers. Plenty of people forgive those that kill their children. No one said life is supposed to be easy… "</p>
<p>Well, that’s your frame of mind. To me, life is so incredibly precious and it’s no virtue to “forgive” someone who can so be so wanton in taking it away from people or treating their own kin like a bag of garbage.</p>
<p>parent56, in reference to the OJ trial.</p>
<p>I was in your shoes during that time, as well. Spent hours watching the actual trial broadcast and then shaking my head at some of the commentary coverage. I’ll stand next to you, take your hand, and bravely announce that I, too, fully understood how that jury could come to its verdict.</p>
<p>This trial seems to be taking the OJ trial path to the extreme. A weaker case going in, with talking heads in a more heated, more inaccurate frenzy.</p>
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<p>That’s my personal belief. </p>
<p>Murder is no easy thing and people don’t just murder for the fun of it. They are either hardened criminals or severely psychologically damaged. Every single known mother that killed a child was extremely mentally ill.</p>
<p>I am leaning towards accidental death, freak out, cover up followed by lie, lie, lie which fits the image of an young, immature, irresponsible person with poor judgment and morals that is used to only thinking about themselves…</p>
<p>I don’t think she intentionally killed her daughter. I just don’t.</p>
<p>I think something awful happened and she freaked out, and because of her horrible relationship to the truth and punishment within her family, she believed it was better to lie and to cover her tracks than to come forward.</p>
<p>“The apple doesn’t fall very far from the tree,” as they say. I don’t “like” this woman, but the hair on the back of my neck stood up when the father was testifying and I was not at all surprised to read the jurors did not believe a word he said. From the second he opened his mouth, my internal lie detectors just started going off to the minute he was gone. I don’t know WHAT he was lying about, but I know the guy was lying, just as sure as his daughter was, as certainly was her mother.</p>
<p>I think baez was right about the culture of lies she grew up in, and while I’m not ready to say definitively she suffered sexual abuse by her father, I will say she behaves like an abuse survivor. So, who knows?</p>
<p>I’m sure had Casey testified, had Baez felt it was their last hope because they were getting obliterated by the prosecution, she would have told that story. True or false, or somewhere in between, I do not know. but, I don’t look at these parents as some pawns in a game she was playing. They had some real history, themselves, and whoever knows a gambling addict or two, knows what living with THAT is like, not much different than living with an active drug addict, to be sure.</p>
<p>You guys keep talking about how awful she is. People don’t get that awful, very often, without a little help from the parents. Just sayn’</p>
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<p>Once again, this is your character flaw and by our societal standards it is a character flaw. Shrug… You don’t have to agree though by ignoring societal norms you open up the argument that Casey’s behavior is perfectly fine by her norms and who are you to judge…</p>
<p>Tangled web that it is…</p>
<p>illyria… thanks!! people still think i’m crazy when i say i understood how they reached a non guilty verdict on that one… and they would usually throw something they heard on tv to support their stance…and i would come back with what actually was presented… but like this case…emotions rule the day sometimes.</p>
<p>I think it was intentional. I see no other realistic explanation for the duct tape, personally. You duct tape someone when you don’t want them breathing. I just don’t buy this “coverup” story at all. The coverup is just a convenient narrative to retroactively explain all past actions in an unfalsifiable way. You could apply it to anything – it’s a safe fallback.</p>
<p>“Once again, this is your character flaw and by our societal standards it is a character flaw. Shrug… You don’t have to agree though by ignoring societal norms you open up the argument that Casey’s behavior is perfectly fine by her norms and who are you to judge…”</p>
<p>To be blunt, you’re the flawed one, here. What twisted logic this is. You do realize morality comes up from untold eons of societal optima, right?</p>
<p>parent56 and illyria, I can support what you’re saying about the commentators not accurately reflecting what went on in court, from another context. I am a political junkie. Sometimes, just for entertainment, I watch a speech on C-SPAN, then change to one of the regular channels to listen to the panels of “experts.” What they say about the speech is almost never accurate. I think these people are more fond of talking than listening, and they don’t really pay attention.</p>
<p>I have not followed this case and can’t offer an opinion about guilt or innocence, but I did see interviews with one (female) juror and one alternate, and they both sounded like very reasonable and responsible people. They were there every day in court, and they were sequestered and not influenced by coverage. I trust them to have made a good decision.</p>
<p>I think it’s interesting that several people had strong feelings that George was lying. I didn’t see his testimony.</p>
<p>I’m going to agree that cptofthehouse’s scenario is very plausible. </p>
<p>She did something that caused the child’s death, even if that was not her intention – and then tried to cover it up by lying and dumping the body. Although, why she did not come clean on that, why her attorneys did not tell her to come clean on that and plead out to child abuse or something I don’t understand.</p>
<p>cnp…problem is that Casey may have lied to her attorneys too and never told them the true story of what happened.</p>
<p>I must say that it seemed odd that the drowning story and cover up with George story never emerged until the trial began.</p>
<p>soozievt… in her ex-fiances interview he says initially there was suspicion raised by anthony family ie cindy and casey and their lawyers that HE drowned caylee.</p>
<p>hln saying casey has denied a visit request from cindy.</p>