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<p>Understandable, really. It’s a crazy thread to keep track of, no? :p</p>
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<p>“We”? Who else do you speak for?
I simply found it amusing and bizarre that you found it “curious”.
To me, there is nothing at all curious in seeing <em>any</em> person smiling and “happy as a clam” when facing her release from jail, especially when the morning before she was facing the potential of being executed. I think that, if one’s vision is not clouded, one might actually expect any person released of those burdens to show signs of happiness. </p>
<p>Perhaps things are seeming old to you because you find fault with the woman’s reactions be they outside or within the norm?</p>
<p>Illyria - I changed the “we” to “I”. </p>
<p>xslacker - bahahahahahahaha. </p>
<p>Ok, time to go. Have fun all.</p>
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<p>This is a rather bizarre definition! I wonder if child protective services uses this one?</p>
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<p>I imagine the CPS social worker would if she found your weed stash!!! :D</p>
<p>LOL</p>
<p>Parents lose their kids for this all the time. If you are getting a divorce, drugs or criminal activity will all but ensure the spouse gets the kids.</p>
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<p>What’s “normal” behavior??? Is there a Diagnostic Manual on normal behavior???</p>
<p>^Casey fits the definition of a sociopath and sociopath’s are not considered “normal”…just sayin</p>
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<p>From what I have seen Casey has ALL these characteristics.</p>
<p>Thank you, limabeans, as that is what I mean by “not normal.”</p>
<p>xSlacker, I don’t agree that all parents who use marijuana are “bad,” “crappy,” or “pieces of XXXX” parents. That alone doesn’t make someone a bad parent. I’m not condoning drug use, but there are plenty of excellent parents who have smoked marijuana, when not doing childcare activities. There are some excellent parents who drink too much too. Marijuana use is not my definition of bad parent. Imagine if social services removed every child from their home who had parents who had used marijuana at all. That would be a LOT of parents.</p>
<p>In many states, possession of small amounts of marijuana, such as less than an ounce, is considered a misdemeanor. Imagine if all kids were removed from homes by parents who committed misdemeanors! </p>
<p>In my view, Casey Anthony’s wrongdoing and bad parenting have nothing to do with use of pot. She has done far more egregious things as a parent than smoked a joint!</p>
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<p>The defense asked for a competency hearing and she was found competent. They were correct to request it if on that day she appeared to them to not be competent. If she was competent then that would be another reason that they would not need to catagorically reject anything she told them.</p>
<p>I still think it is very strange that Caylee’s grandparents would not make a report to CPS or the police that they had been unable to have physical contact with their grandaughter for over a month based on their daughter’s resistence and bs stories.</p>
<p>Involving CPS can be extremely messy. And as has been posted before, there was no history of abuse or negligence beforehand.</p>
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<p>I do not fin it strange that the grandparents did not contact authorities when Casey cut off contact between them and their grandchild. In many family dynamics, this happens. People don’t then jump to an assumption that the child is in danger or missing. Who would imagine such a thing with their OWN daughter? It is not as if there was a history of prior harm to the toddler, etc. The fact that Casey often had a stormy relationship with her parents would make it not entirely suspect that Casey was in a “cut off” mode from them and not seeing them for a while. I’m not condoning such behavior but it is not that unusual in rocky family relationships that someone cuts off contact. That was all that they knew of. Not really reason to contact authorities as they were able to locate their own daughter by phone and she wasn’t missing. The daughter just gave excuses about the granddaughter and whereabouts and so forth and didn’t provide access. The daughter went away with the grandchild (not so odd) supposedly and just didn’t provide access to the grandparents to the grandchild for a month. The grandparents were making inquiries. But a month is not that long for an adult daughter to leave the home with the grandchild that they would call authorities. But ya know,they DID call authorities when the car was found and smelled of “death” and on top of their concerns to get answers from Casey, they did have suspicions of something not being right and did call police. Now if CASEY were ALSO missing and they could not locate her by phone, that would be a reason to contact authorities. But I believe they did have phone contact with Casey who kept giving false excuses such as being with a boyfriend who was rich, etc.</p>
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This isn’t necessarily true. Reporting suspicion of abuse or neglect just starts the process. It is up to the child protective service caseworker to determine if further investigation is needed. And in some cases, involvement of CPS can help a parent/family with managemt/parenting skills/responsibilities. Involvement of CPS isn’t necessarily a bad thing.</p>
<p>[Casey</a> Anthony refuses jail visit from her mother | Reuters](<a href=“http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/07/08/us-crime-anthony-idUSTRE76764820110708]Casey”>http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/07/08/us-crime-anthony-idUSTRE76764820110708)</p>
<p>^Sounds like typical Casey behavior</p>
<p>She’ll probably cash in on her newfound fame and kick her parents to the curb.</p>
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<p>m2ck, in your world, is this considered evidence?</p>
<p>agree las ma, its the method of “burial” that bothers me the most… however again i think it was the jury had a question…how did she die (cause)?..it seems if they didnt know the method, they didnt know if accident or murder… if they had drowning then accident…if suffocation by tape they had murder… they seem to be saying unless they knew that they had reasonable doubt… could be one or the other.</p>
<p>realistically they dont need cause of death (ie lacie peterson) but that seems to be what happened. her behavior after etc makes her a weird/evil/strange person who lies but doesnt make her a murderer</p>
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<p>If I was her mom, I’d kick her to the curb. Seriously, after the verdict, one of the first things I thought was, “if I was her mom, I’d tell her I never wanted to see her again.” She helped raise her child, she perjured herself to keep her D off of death row. Casey will get pregnant again, she will have a self destructive lifestyle. If you were her mom, wouldn’t you just want to move to an island and pretend your grown D didn’t exist?</p>
<p>*And, that’s why they couldn’t bring themselves to convict…but…that ignores Casey’s IMMEDIATE party behavior and getting that particular tattoo. And, it doesn’t explain why she didn’t at least respectably bury Caylee somewhere…instead of throwing her out like garbage. Casey had PLENTY of time to have taken the body to a deserted area, dig a hole and bury her. </p>
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<p>m2ck, in your world, is this considered evidence? *</p>
<p>Yes…and I should have included her incredible and lengthy lies to police and her “disappearance” for 31 days" from the family home…it is ADDITIONAL evidence that speaks to consciousness of guilt. There are certain behaviors that are indications of consciousness of guilt in court cases…one is “flight” …lying to cops…etc.</p>
<p>*For those who feel the jury got it wrong:</p>
<p>Based on the evidence presented at trial (which is all the jury is allowed to consider), how did Casey kill her daughter?*</p>
<p>you asked how did Casey kill her D…WELL, how did Scott Peterson kill Laci??? </p>
<p>and…the jury didn’t know how Hans Reiser’s wife died either when he was convicted because the body hadn’t even been found yet…and he was claiming that she was still alive!!!</p>
<p>Juries convict without knowing how someone died. They even convict when no body has been found.</p>
<p>I’m trying to remember the Calif case where a couple’s son was missing…and the jury convicted the defendents on the belief that they tied him up, took him in a plane, and threw him in the Pacific Ocean. No body…no evidence of how he died.</p>
<p>Juries do not need to know how someone died in order to convict.</p>
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<p>That alone DOES make one a bad parent if that’s not all they do…</p>
<p>It’s highly improbable that Casey ONLY smoked weed and from the amount of partying she did well… It speaks for itself.</p>
<p>I was asked how I would prove she is a crappy parent and based on current societal norms I would be correct.</p>
<p>I challenge you to pull out a joint public and smoke it while near your child and see if you don’t get a visit from CPS…</p>
<p>Though I did say “bad” parent and that the crappy and piece of $%^& were my subjective judgments.</p>
<p>Plus she did more than smoke weed… ;)</p>
<p>Though I admit a certain intolerance for drugs and the weak people that require them. Subjective feelings. Oh well…</p>
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<p>Indications of guilt?</p>
<p>Innocent people have run many times…
Innocent people have lied as well…</p>
<p>These activities are NOT evidence. Just things to consider…</p>