Not true.
I had heard that not getting an interview to one of the top universities in the US basically means either that no one in your area was available, or that not enough people in your area were available (the number of applicants exceeded the number of alumni in the area who had signed up to do interviews), or that whomever was supposed to do it (probably an alumni working on a volunteer basis) just did not get around to contacting you. Also, the interview really is not important to your chances (assuming that you do not express admiration for axe murderers during your interview). In other words, I had heard that this says nothing at all about your chances of admissions.
No news is just that, no news.
But Yale and Harvard are of course high reaches for nearly every applicant.
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Thank you!!
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dropping another update… i got rejected from udub, accepted to UCSD, and waitlisted from UCLA, bowdoin, harvey mudd, and CMU. does anyone know if being waitlisted at any of these schools means i have a good chance at getting off (except for cmu)? or all they all delayed rejections. my berkeley astrology also says i didn’t get in 
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No one can predict whether you will get off a waitlist..or not. Wait and see. You should choose amongst your acceptances, and if you get off of a waitlist you can accept that spot, and notify the first school.
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thanks for the input! not sure if you’re familiar with canadian schools but i was also accepted to Waterloo business + CS double degree. if money isn’t an issue would you recommend USC or waterloo (usc is also bus + cs but not a double degree)?
A good chance, no. A chance, yes. But please get excited about the schools where you have been accepted! That is the thing to focus on right now.
You can check the common data sets for each school to see how many people they historically have taken from the waiting list. (Section C2)
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sounds good thank you so much!
I might also suggest you check several years. For some colleges it varies a lot over time.
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Waterloo is an excellent school. I see no reason to to pick USC over Waterloo. There are Nobel prize winners who have launched their careers from Waterloo, so why not you?
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my parents are a bit concerned because my brother went and can access some student only co-op stats that are showing how hard it is for cs students to get coop right now. we’re thinking that usc would be good for both cs and ib
Are things any better right now for co-op opportunities at USC?
I don’t believe you can get a job offer from CS or IB companies in USA as a foreign student after graduation from USC.
Hard to say what immigration policies will be then.
Maybe others know about co-ops for Canadian students in USA
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Some don’t like my terminology but the reality is a wait list is a rejection but hedge for the school, an insurance policy if you will. If we don’t yield enough (have enough want to attend), here is this other student that would fit so we could pull from. So they are saying - we cannot accept you, but if we fall short, then maybe we will find you a spot because we need to put butts in the seats.
They may use different things to pull - the right major (maybe they need an anthro major, not a CS major, the right finances (some WL are need aware so they seek full pay) or anything else that the school deems necessary for them.
Past performance is no guarantee of future results but you can see past WL data in the common data set section C2:
Last year, UCLA pulled 1211 out of 9198 on their WL. So 1211 and only 6500 enrolled - so that’s actually a nice chunk.
Bowdoin took 22 - didn’t show WL size.
Harvey Mudd 53 of 403
CMU 32 of 10,062. Think about this - they had 33,941 applicants and offered WL Spots to 16,484 of which 10,062 accepted a spot. Wow - that’s just cruel - they WL half the applicants.
But that was last year - that doesn’t mean it will be similar this year.
So yes some WL do happen - but it’s best to focus on your acceptances and fall in love with them so by the time a WL offer comes (if it does, which it doesn’t for most) - that you tell that WL school - sorry, I’ve already got a fantastic home and I’m ready to get started!!!
As far as the job market, no one can predict it with certainty - find the best fit for you - budget, location, and more - and go with that. If it’s good one place, it’s likely to be good at another or vice versa.
Even the top schools seem to be struggling in CS now. But in two or four years, who knows.
Best of luck.
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thank you for the advice. thats what i was thinking too… thats its better to focus my attention on schools ive gotten into than to dwell on the waitlists. thanks for the statistics too!
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brother at google says his manager heavily favors usc over waterloo, but that’s only one person saying so im not too sure.. i dont have any stats for USC as of now. but since its a target for IB there’s more opportunities i guess?
i hear this a lot and i was curious about stem opts and things like that? would that help me secure a job after graduation and being canadian assuming that relations go back to normal in a few years?
You cannot count on being able to stay in the US and work after graduation regardless of who is in office. If USC is right for you, that’s great but don’t attend thinking that will allow you to stay in the US after graduation. That will be even more true if the job market is tight (impossible to predict right now).
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Excellent advice.
OP- it’s worth it for you to invest half an hour in reading the immigration/labor laws before you get too invested in studying in the US.
Whether or not you CAN legally stay here to work doesn’t change the fact that you still need a US employer to HIRE you. Just “staying” won’t be an option. Knowledge is power. And yes, the situation on the ground changes but the basic premise around non-Green card holders getting a job in the US is pretty consistent over time. The reason the more liberal rules around students who graduate with a STEM degree came into play was due to a perception that there was a shortage of new grads with those degrees and skills. Once that shortage becomes a surplus…
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ohh i see. what about the prospects of getting hired in canada then being able to do and internal transfer? i know this is pretty common for UK grads but not too sure about Canadians studying in the US. i’ll take a look at the docs thank you!