<p>Well I guess I need a much higher CR and W score for SAT I and I’ll be good on that.</p>
<p>LOL silverturtle. 750 on each is…hmmm…let’s see Oh my! 2250!! I think that is what I said, you have to take into account the other posts in the conversation. We said a few times that getting it to 2250 was a kind of “magic”’ number.</p>
<p>He is fairly far below that right now, so he needs to get it up. MIT might not differentiate between a 2250 and a 2380, but I bet they do with a 2130 or whatever it was. I won’t get into an argument over my use of the term “stat driven” and how specifically I meant it. I think it applies to this OP.</p>
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<p>Indeed, I did not read for context, but I didn’t have to: your post alone was clearly illogical given the reality. When MIT seems to care about scores less than all other top schools, it makes no sense to advise a student to apply to Harvard but not MIT because the latter is “very stat driven,” don’t you think?</p>
<p>I don’t think 100 points up is too hard. Other than that, what are my weak points?</p>
<p>Silverturtle - Now you are being silly. Taking a sentence out of a whole conversation and therefore losing its context doesn’t matter? Given the loads of students I know that got rejected by MIT, the few I know that got in, and the same for Harvard, I think my statement is correct. MIT seems to have a very firm floor they are loathe to go under, Harvard is a little more flexible, but not much. That has been my observation.</p>
<p>However, I will say that the 640 CR probably hurts him more at Harvard than if the scores were more even. Of course he can try all places. Might as well.</p>
<p>Is SAT my only weakpoint? Or are there more?</p>
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<p>I didn’t need context to understand that you were advising a competitive applicant against applying to MIT because his scores weren’t good enough. Even if your claim about MIT’s being stats-driven were true (and I haven’t seen evidence of this, only counter-evidence), that is bad advice.</p>
<p>You said yourself they treat 750 and above all the same, He doesn’t meet that. You might think it was bad advice, but that is only your opinion. In fact he said he was only going to apply to 10 schools (I guess you didn’t read that either). If he is going to stick to that, then I think there are a lot better places for him to apply, especially since he needs money too. Why “waste” an app on such a long shot? But I am sure you will find a way to discount my advice in the context that I knew he had said only 10 apps.</p>
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<p>And your point is?</p>
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<p>There is considerable reason to believe that Harvard is more of a long shot.</p>
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<p>I had not noticed that, so your comment is rendered far more reasonable, though I still disagree on the reasoning.</p>
<p>I’m not limited to 10 apps, I just wanted to put out a number so people wouldn’t recommend 50 different schools. If people think it’s prospective for me to apply, then I will. If everyone thinks I have no chance, then I won’t. I just want to avoid paying fees when I’ve got no chance. I understand that 640 CR is far from 750, but I do plan to study and raise it along with my 710 writing</p>
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<p>Yes, given that you are a competitive applicant, I do recommend applying to any top schools that you want to attend (within reason, of course). Nonetheless, raising your SAT score (especially CR) is important. I shamelessly recommend my SAT guide for that. :)</p>
<p>Can you give me a link?</p>
<p>It’s at the top of the SAT forum.</p>
<p>silverturtle - You don’t disagree on the reasoning, you disagree with the assessment as to which is more stats driven. If I were convinced it was Harvard, I would agree with you.</p>
<p>I think the reality is that unless the scores go up, Harvard and MIT are both very long shots. Technically they are for everyone, but given the number at either school that have SAT scores at his current level, it has to be even longer.</p>
<p>OP - If you are not limited in the number of apps by financial considerations, then sure; apply to as many of the long shots as you can stand doing essays.</p>
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<p>Which was the basis for your reasoning, was it not? </p>
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<p>Yes, I agree, which is part of why I opposed your original distinction (with the other reason being the fact that I thought you were distinguishing in the wrong direction).</p>
<p>No, the reasoning is that he should not apply to the longer shot (when I thought he was limited in apps). I think you agreed with that. The application of that reasoning differs based on which school is more stat driven. You may be right, I may be right, who the hell really knows, lol.</p>
<p>Your ECs are ok, I think that they show a fairly good amount of commitment. To be honest though, you’re screaming ASIAN(Key Club, Tennis, etc)!
I definitely think you should take the SAT again: writing is the most coachable section, and some hard practice will bring your score up in no time.
However, you do show a passion for learning, which is something the Ivies absolutely eat up. And I do agree with the previous posts, your background would make a stellar admissions essay if you present it right. I think HPYS would be a bit of a stretch, but definitely manageable and all your other schools are definite maybes/certains.
I wish you the absolute best of luck :)</p>
<p>I think being 1st generation will really help you out. If you raise your SAT to at least a 2300+, I think that will give you a legit shot at Stanford, Harvard, and MIT.</p>
<p>Doesn’t require 2300, as has been well documented.</p>
<p>Is only 2 SAT II scores enough or should I really really try to self-study chem and take that? Or should I focus only on SAT I?</p>