Chance Me Bay Area CC student to Top 10 [3.82 college GPA, chemical engineering, high financial need]

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Demographics

Bay area smaller CC campus, Disability, first-gen, grew up on the poverty line, currently manage my parents financials and health, immigrant family. Currently in my second semester applying in the fall/spring for fall 2027

Cost Constraints
Offers good financial aid to low income applicants

Intended Major(s)

ChemE, onto postgraduate in Physical Chem

GPA, Rank, and Test Scores

  • Unweighted HS GPA: 3.6
  • Weighted HS GPA: 3.8
  • College GPA: 3.82
  • Class Rank: No Rank
  • ACT/SAT Scores: Taking in the Fall

HS coursework

AP English (3 and 4, perfect scores), AP Bio (no test), AP World (3), dual enrollment gen chem and bio classes (awarded certificate of achievement in biomanufacturing), standard classes and spanish elective.

College Coursework

All main CC math classes (calc1-3, linear, differential), MATLAB, engineering physics series, gen chem (ochem planned), humanities classes relating to racial studies. Self studying MIT Quantum Mechanics, may take the class at berkeley summer session if I get lab placement.

Awards

Honor Scholar at CC, Hispanic Recognition Program and AP scholar via college board.

Extracurriculars

  • Founded campus club for bio and chem majors, high attendance, presents on career topics and internship opportunities (plus lab visits and guest speakers)

  • Founded a research lab independently and brought on fellow CC students to study niche biological topics like Mycology, invited to present research at UC berkeley in April, got research grant from our CC.

  • Rocketry Team Chemistry Lead and Recovery Design member

  • MESA Scholar, EOP&S, Engineering club, Latinx Student Center, Berkeley CCTS.

  • Volunteer on weekends at the local food bank since 2024

  • Host my own publishing site where I post essays, commentary, and descriptions of my projects, including two studies I wrote on extracting hydrocarbons from plastics and fermenting bacteria respectively.

  • Resell cameras on the side to pay for lab materials and car insurance.

  • Applied for labs this summer, hopefully invited to PTK and STEM Core by the fall.

LORs
Club Advisor/Concurrent Enrollment prof: 10/10

Gen Chem Professor: 9/10

MESA Director: 8/10

Schools:

Stanford, UC Berkeley, Caltech :broken_heart:, Princeton, UMich, Northwestern, UIUC, Georgia Tech, UCLA

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As a junior level transfer, don’t bother with the ACT or SAT unless a college you apply to specifically requires it for junior level transfer applicants.

For UCs, you can see the transfer admissions profiles by campus and major at

Note that many UCs offer chemical engineering.

Be sure to include more likely schools on your application list.

Be sure to check net price calculators for each school on your list. Be aware that out-of-state public universities are unlikely to offer good need based financial aid.

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You may want to consider doing TAG to a UC that offers chemical engineering and whose net price calculator indicates affordability:

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It will be difficult - and some of these won’t be affordable - UIUC, U Mich, Ga Tech.

You don’t need to go to a top school for ChemE. If you’re going to work, you need ABET. For grad school, you’ll be fine too.

Wisconsin is a top ChemE school and appears to be getting ready to offer for need tor low income. You can check to see if it will come on transfers.

Otherwise, I’d run NPCs of schools that meet need - and drop schools like Georgia Tech and Illinois. You might look at Case Western, Cornell, Rice, USC, and UVA.

Not sure your budget, but in addition to UCs, you have access to WUE. Low cost schools include Cal Poly Pomona + WUE schools like Reno, New Mexico, New Mexico Mining, Utah, and Wyoming.

Your list is reach heavy - and potentially not budget friendly - especially UIUC and Ga Tech and perhaps Michigan.

I don’t know the budget but just a guess.

Always find affordable - vs. big names because if you can’t afford a school, there’s no point in applying.

And find an assured school that you can afford. Do you have one? Likely a CSU or UC. Or perhaps WUE (which can be cheaper than a UC).

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Is there a particular reason you want to major in chemical engineering for this goal? It seems that a major in chemistry may be more suitable and would allow you to consider a wider range of potential college choices.

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If you look at the Chem PhD feeder list, there was only one or two of the top 50 (per capita) from schools with ChemE - and a Chem major would open more meets need or high merit schools. I had the same thought - glad you said it.

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Could be that chemical engineering is more marketable than chemistry most of the time in case the graduate study does not happen or needs to be delayed in order to earn money to support the family or pay off student loans.

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First of all, congratulations on your hard work and significant success to this point. All of this effort is very likely to help you a LOT going forward.

However, I think that you should add some of the UC’s that are way more likely for admissions to your list. As a potential chemical engineering students you will want to attend a university that is ABET accredited for chemical engineering. In general, ALL of the Universities of California are very good. You can check as well as I can which are ABET accredited and for what majors. If any U of California is ABET accredited for the particular form of engineering that is of interest to you then it is a very good university.

And I agree with another comment that you might want to consider some of the WUE schools.

I was under the impression that UCs generally admit transfer students with two years of community college. However, the transfer advisors at your community college will understand this much better than I do. Talk to them.

If you get a bachelor’s degree in chemical engineering from any ABET accredited university, including any ABET accredited University of California, and if you want to consider getting a master’s, and if you can afford it, then Stanford and other top universities will still be there, and might be possible if your grades and work experience and other aspects of your application are exceptional.

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ABET accreditation for Chem E in CA is 12 schools:

  1. Cal Lutheran
  2. Cal Poly Pomona
  3. LB State
  4. UCB
  5. UCD
  6. UCI
  7. UCLA
  8. UCR
  9. UCSD
  10. UCSB
  11. San Jose State
  12. USC
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Note that Stanford and Princeton admit very few transfer applicants, and have a reputation of emphasizing non-traditional students for transfer admission. Non-traditional students would typically be those who are considered independent students for FAFSA purposes (older, military veteran, etc.).

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I 100% agree with this. Most schools do not value it highly or even consider it for transfer students.

I think time would be better spent finding schools that are transfer friendly and also offer financial aid. Perhaps a Cornell type instead of UIUC, Michigan or GT.

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First of all, congratulations on your accomplishments thus far. You have done well. In my opinion, you have too many reaches which will lead to disappointing results.
I want to know what you plan to do with your degrees because it will matter as to where you apply.

Background about me, which I really wouldn’t disclose, but it is relevant.

ME: Chicano kid from the barrio, very low income but very high GPAs in HS, college, grad school. Attended private undergrad and public grad school in my home city.

Married to a UC/Stanford MSEE engineer.

Husband’s twin: Rose-Hulman undergrad, UC grad, Georgia Tech- PhD Chem Engineering.

Eldest daughter-UB EE/CS
Middle daughter, Davis, UCSF med school
Son-CalTech, computer engineering

You need financial aid to go to school. It was hard when I went to school. It’s harder for you.
For our children, we started saving our money when they were in preschool for their colleges through something called a 529 account. We knew the college fees were going to be ridiculous, so although we could probably afford to go on vacations, and spend once in a while, we scrimped on everything.

We were fortunate because our kids were amazing students scoring nearly perfect scores on their SATs, which got them national merit status.

They got in where they wanted to go (our son missed one question on the SAT). Our son went to Caltech. It was a horrible experience for him because it’s a research institution. He wanted a small undergrad experience.

The beginning undergraduate courses were taught by graduate students who had no experience in teaching. The professors lectured, then went on to do their own research. You already have to be at a research level when you enter.

A math problem can take you five hours. You are largely on your own and you are expected to do extremely well. If you’re not accustomed to getting perfect grades and scores in high school and community college, this is not the place for you because you will be woefully behind. It’s been described as drinking water from a fire hose. You get blown away.

Are you sure you want to study chemical engineering?
My brother-in-law had an awful time with his career in finding job placements. Many times, he was considered overqualified.

It’s not a career where there’s a lot of stability. A lot of his jobs were based on federal grants, and that money has basically disappeared. He moved at least 10 times. His jobs were not in the best of locations. (I’m adding that although my brother-in-law had a more “academic education,” receiving his PhD, his salary never quite matched the return on his investment.)

You need affordable options. Going after the names of the school and their prestige isn’t going to help you personally, because you still have to be able to afford most of these schools.

You can’t afford the out-of-state options. As a transfer student, you won’t get the best funding in scholarships.
The UC’s and the Cal states will probably be your most affordable options. We have good schools in California. I received a $40,000 fellowship in grad school while attending San Diego State University, for my research and grades.

You need to be open minded and add some affordable schools. I worked cleaning dorm rooms, working in the mall, and as a lab assistant(phlebotomy). I knew a number of students on financial aid and we still all had to work multiple jobs just to make ends meet.

As you progress through your university and grad school, it gets harder. You don’t want to add financial stress to that list.

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Chem Engineering has a higher emphasis on physics at most schools w/ usual electives at schools like Cal including quantum mechanics, plasma physics, etc

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This as well, not trying to be stuck without funds in the case my transition into grad school isn’t immediate.

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In terms of engineering degrees that are physical-chem adjacent, you might want to compare and contrast ChemE vs. Materials Science. A lot of the chem/physics foundation is similar, but the employment and research landscapes differ in ways that might make one preferable to the other.

I agree with others’ advice that you should cast a wider net in terms of in-state publics. Are any commutable for you?

Run Net Price Calculators for all schools you’re considering. As others have said, I highly doubt that there’s any path to affordability at GT or UIUC. UMich does have need-based aid for low-income OOS students, but it may not be generous enough, and I think they may be need-aware for OOS transfers, which would reduce your odds of acceptance.

I agree with the recommendation of Cornell as a transfer-friendly elite school that meets need, albeit with the caveat that the transfer acceptance rate is inflated by transfer pathways for New York community college students; the path for OOS transfers is steeper than the overall numbers would suggest.

In addition to Rice, another full-need-met elite school which could be a good substitute for GT is Carnegie Mellon (which is particularly strong in Materials Science). Like other Ivy+ schools, transfer space is limited; but it isn’t quite as tough for engineering and physical sciences as for CS, which is brutally competitive and drags down the overall admissions stats.

CWRU is a great suggestion too, although they’re need-aware so overall stats may present a more optimistic picture than what you’ll face. Not only do they have both ChemE and Materials, but you might also look at their Engineering Physics major, which grants an ABET-accredited general engineering degree and includes a concentration in one’s engineering discipline of choice, but with a heavier focus on the foundational physical sciences, which seems like it could be a good fit for your goals.

Lehigh University could be worth a look for you. They give no-loan, full-need-met aid to low-income students, and they have made specific efforts to recruit in California. They offer both ChemE and Materials majors, plus several interdisciplinary options. Nearby Lafayette also meets need and has ChemE.

But NPC’s need to be the first filter. For some California students, a full-need-met private will be more affordable than an in-state public. For others, staying in-state is the better deal. How does it look for you?

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I’ve been getting a ton of replies focusing more on budget and less on program quality/actual chance I’ll get in. While I do have the lowest possible SAI, any outstanding costs I have will be covered via family contribution outside of what’s on my fafsa, so as long as there is some sort of aid and I’m not paying basically full price, budget is not really an issue.

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Kind of regretting the time I spent responding, if you’re going to ignore the 70% of my post that was about program fit, program quality, and attainability (supposedly the topics you want to discuss), to complain about the 30% that was about affordability. Good luck though! :woman_shrugging:

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Define this because you shouldn’t conflate a rank (very perceived) and quality/strength. Like my son, you will find U Mich mixed with W Michigan, CPSLO with Colorado State and Wash U with WVU. It’s ABET acrredidstion you need.

But if you seek ‘top’ by ‘rank’ which is from a magazine or websites seeking click bait, not real employers, then you can’t go wrong with UDel in the chem capital and UMN. Those are #4 and #12 per US News which only provides ‘top’ for 12 schools.

As for budget, when you list your SAI - yes people are going to base on what you can afford -likely neither of the two I just mentioned. But if you have family paying, these likely give you the two best chances of the U.S. News top 12, although within the major, I could be wrong.

But don’t say this -

Cost Constraints
Offers good financial aid to low income applicants

And then get on posters who address this.

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