<p>I don’t know how much I stand a chance but here goes:</p>
<p>Objective:
ACT: Taking in June
Unweighted GPA (out of 4.0):3.85
Weighted GPA: 4.33
Rank (percentile if rank is unavailable):Top 3 %
Major Awards (USAMO, Intel etc.): Presidential Award (only given to 5 students in state of Florida), Principals Honor Roll, Young Writers of America and many more.</p>
<p>Extracurriculars (place leadership in parenthesis):
Delta Phi Pi Chapter (English Honor Society) (President)
National Honor Society (Vice-President)
Rho Kappa
Key Club (President)
Mu Alpha Theta
JV Football (Team Captain)
Varsity Football (Team Captain)
Cross Country
Track
Basketball (Team Captain)
Science National Honor Society (Vice-President)
National Technical Honor Society (President)
Business Academy (Treasurer) </p>
<p>Job/Work Experience: Universal Studios Orlando Florida (Team Captain)
Volunteer/Community service:renouned hospital here in Florida 100+ hours.</p>
<p>Other:
State (if domestic applicant):Florida
Country (if international applicant):
School Type:Large Public
Ethnicity:American Indian (URM)
Gender:Male
Income Bracket: $60000
Hooks (URM, first generation college, etc.): Low Income, First Generation College Student, and URM. </p>
<p>I am applying to the College of Engineering. I plan on pursuing my lifetime dream of Computer Science.</p>
<p>Will I be accepted? </p>
<p>What should I aim for on my ACT test which I will be taking in June?</p>
<p>Just fyi Stanford admits to all colleges (meaning you can choose to do any major if you get into Stanford, and you don’t actually apply to a college of _____ )</p>
<p>Considering you are native american, and a first generation, low income, and planning on CS, your chances are very good. (just need a decent ACT score)</p>
<p>^ well a lot of people are qualified; i’d bet 80% of applicants are completely qualified to do the work at Stanford, so it’s not that special.
What sets OP apart is his race, income level, and the fact that he had all those accomplishments given his disadvantaged background. And that’s what’ll get him/her in; not the academic qualifications that almost eveyrone has.</p>
<p>I wasn’t trying to down play his abilities. Its quite obvious that hes well qualified.
Captrick hit the point right on the spot.</p>
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oh, if you were referring to my posts against the policy of racial AA, I’m trying to push for a debate on the policy of AA. I have no problems recommending my friends to take advantage of the system as the way it is now, nor am I prejudiced towards people who use AA (its not their fault that AA exist, why should I blame them for using it?). I try my best to keep policy debate separated from the people.</p>
<p>You missed the point… when a student is very qualified, people on here tell them that–they tell them what are the strongest parts of their applications. But when they have some other ‘hook,’ then that’s the only thing that matters. Just more evidence of the mentality on CC.</p>
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<p>…and more evidence. (Also I hardly think that “almost everyone” has been identified as one of five students in an entire state.)</p>
<p>Honestly, you know very little about admissions. Even with ‘hooks,’ people can be extremely qualified and get in on those qualifications alone (and the hooks are just a bonus). It’s because of people like you that people who are low-income or first-generation or whathaveyou feel bad because they supposedly didn’t get in on their own merits, when they did. The other factors are exaggerated on this site. It’s shameful.</p>
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<p>I had no idea you were posting in the AA thread… but I’m not surprised you are.</p>
<p>Hooks do matter, quite a lot actually. Why? Universities wants to know that an applicant made best of the opportunities they had.</p>
<p>ei. an applicant from a high income background with 2300+ and excellent extracurriculars (who probably took expensive test prep courses and got well connected internships)isn’t as impressive as an applicant from a low income background with 2100+ and very good extracurriculars. </p>
<p>Hooks aren’t bonuses, especially things like first generation college student and low income status. They provide the college with a fundamental framework of judging how hard the applicant worked and how the applicant succeeded on his or her own abilities despite their disadvantaged background. </p>
<p>Stats are only meaningful if they are put into context. (hence my post only refereed to his background)
Phantasmagoric, do you really think I would be putting down someone for being low-income, first generation? I grew up in a low-income immigrant house hold with a single mom, I think i would more likely sympathize with those who have come so far entirely by pulling themselves up.</p>
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I don’t need a lecture on how Stanford admissions works (not really anyone can say how important “hooks” are–no data is available). </p>
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<p>I’ll let your post #2 speak for itself. (Pretty representative post, I think, of CC ‘chance’ posts.)</p>
<p>Well, the AA debate is interesting and all but a look at the Michigan forum shows that he isn’t American Indian but Indian American and therefore an ORM.</p>
<p>for the last time, you are NOT URM.
You count as Asian. It doesn’t matter what your transcript says. You count as Asian.
Asian. Asian. Asian. Asian. Asian.
Arguing about it isn’t going to do anything. </p>
<p>Indians are not at all under-represented. We are over-represented.</p>
<p>You would realize this if you did about 30 seconds of research.</p>
<p>You certainly have the right to interpret my post to fit your perception of CC. But if you think someone growing up low-income, in a first generation home, while getting an application like his isn’t impressive, then I don’t know what to say…
Anyways this is getting off topic.</p>
<p>^ I’ve worked on first-gen/low-income student issues for three years now (I’m willing to bet I know a lot more about it)–but you don’t seem to realize I was pointing out the fact that you mentioned his ethnicity first. And of course, that’s moot now, because he isn’t native.</p>
<p>Before you generalize “people like me”, know that I’m a low-income applicant applying through QuestBridge. Even though I benefit from the system, I’ve no doubt that if I get in a school like Stanford, it’ll mainly be because of my social status. Although my academics are great, it’s a dime in a dozen. I would not feel bad or anything when I get accepted because I know I’ve made it so far given less opportunities.</p>
<p>Bottom line: I am not against the system, but I AM disillusioned to how the system works.</p>
<p>You think that makes it better, being one yourself? That makes it worse. I’m a first-gen, low-income student (yes, I applied through QB too), and I know for a fact that that wasn’t what got me into Stanford and other schools (if you’d like to know how I know this, send me a message; I’m not going to post this on a public forum). More than anything, you need to stop spreading the misconception that it isn’t the academic qualifications that get such a student in. They are the most important. Everything else is secondary. I’m sorry to hear that you have so little faith in your ability to get in without such. And if you’re truly disillusioned, please get far, far away from CC, the sooner the better–it’s this site that engenders that attitude, not the system itself, which I can assure you is not what you think it is. It’s that attitude that makes students who are attending think that they can’t do it, that they were chosen only because of X, Y, or Z, that they are inferior to their peers. Not only does it divide the campus, but it harms the students themselves.</p>
<p>We finished the discussion in PM. (Also you can ‘agree to disagree’ on issues of opinion, but it’s different when it’s an issue of fact. And I’m not going to ignore it when high school students who know little to nothing spread horrible misconceptions.)</p>