Chance me for Yale

  • US domestic (US citizen or permanent resident) or international student: domestic

  • State/Location of residency: east coast I don’t wanna say which state

  • Type of high school (or current college for transfers): public

  • Other special factors: first gen, female, father has Alzheimer’s so I have to watch him

Cost Constraints / Budget
will need aid

Intended Major(s) physics

GPA, Rank, and Test Scores

  • Unweighted HS GPA: school doesn’t do uw

  • Weighted HS GPA: 4.3

  • College GPA: (for transfer applicants)

  • Class Rank: 1

  • ACT/SAT Scores: 1470

List your HS coursework

(Indicate advanced level, such as AP, IB, AICE, A-level, or college, courses as well as specifics in each subject)

  • English:AP Lang and AP lit

  • Math: IB Math AnA pt 1 and 2, AP stat

    • Science: IB physics pt1 and 2, AP CSA, AP computer science principles, IB Chem HL pt 1, IB Comp sci HL pt 1 and 2
  • History and social studies: IB global politics, AP gov

  • Language other than English: (including highest level completed) IB Arabic 1 and 2

  • Visual or performing arts:

  • Other academic courses:

Awards

Extracurriculars
summer science program

Paid CS internship

Charity with former prime minister of an Arab country

Research internship nearby

3rd degree black belt in karate

Created and published app

President of state wide funding program

Regional science fair 1st place

Essays/LORs/Other

Former prime minister - pretty strong rec

Physics teacher- decently strong

Math teacher- also decently strong

Schools of interest

Yale, U mich, Virginia tech, brown

What is your unweighted gpa. Give a 4 for an A, 3 for B, 2 for C. The school may not but you need to know it It’s easy to calculate

Only Va Tech is a likely but need to see your gpa. Given your rank I assume it’s a 4.0. You need aid so unless you’re in-state or have $55k plus a year, it’s a high reach. You can’t afford. Same with UM - yes they have aid but it’s $80k and likely won’t be enough.

What is your actual budget per year ? You need to find schools that will cost less.

Does the prime minister truly know you personally - that he could write in depth? If not it likely won’t help. check each to see who will even accept. They may or may not - I’ve not looked.

Only two years of language will sink you and better of it isn’t a language you spoke your entire life.

Yale doesnt require language but says - Generally speaking, you should try to take courses each year in English, science, math, the social sciences, and foreign language.

With an acceptance rate under 5% Yale is a reach for any unhooked applicant.

By all means apply and give it your all but also be sure to craft an application list that includes reach, match, and safety schools that appear affordable and that you would be excited to attend.

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Assumes facts not in evidence. The OP provided highest level in each subject— not every course. Since OP didn’t specify ab initio, IB foreign language requires prior coursework in the language.

Just pressing the submit button will sink OP for Yale; the acceptance rate is too low to provide chances.

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Your SAT is below the 25th percentile for Yale. Otherwise your stats are quite good. Being the top student in your high school would be quite common for students who end up accepted to Yale, but also applies to many students who are not accepted. Most applicants will be relatively close to being the top student in their high school.

Other universities that might be similar to Yale in selectivity have estimated that something like 80% of applicants are academically fully qualified to attend and do well (at one point years ago Stanford said 80%, MIT said 85%, I did not expect either number to be strictly precise). I think that you are in that 80%. However, the acceptance rate is more like 4.5%. Also, the acceptance rate will include legacy students and recruited athletes, which I am guessing that you are not since I did not see it mentioned. Having only two years of a language is also not ideal (again unless I am misinterpreting the post).

I do not think that your chances of getting admitted to Yale are any better than the overall acceptance rate, and it might be slightly less. In other words your chances might be somewhere around 4% or a bit less. This is of course only a guess.

If you are a competitive applicant for Yale you should be able to compute your unweighted GPA rather easily. If you have nothing but A’s, then you could just say 4.0. If you have one or more B’s, then you would need to count your A’s to compute an unweighted GPA.

Brown is also a reach. Assuming that you are out of state for U.Michigan it is also a reach. Is Virginia Tech going to be affordable for you?

Make sure that you apply to at least one, and preferably two affordable safeties that you would be happy to attend.

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OP- kids who like Yale generally like Wesleyan, Rochester, Skidmore, Bryn Mawr, Vassar, Wellesley. Take a look at these. None of them are safe, admissions wise, but they are usually easier admits (statistically. Nobody can predict an individual’s chances at these “holistic admit” schools). Do you need to be close to home due to your dad’s illness? If so, do you have a couple of schools within an easy commute?

Hugs. I am in the unlucky genetic club of TWO parents with Alzheimer’s, so I know how challenging your life has been.

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You strike me as a potentially competitive applicant for Yale. This really just means it is worth applying, at least if you check out their Net Price Calculator and they would provide enough aid.

As others are saying, it is impossible to give you a specific chance beyond that. But realistically, it is hard for it to actually be likely to be admitted to a place like Yale (barring being something like a recruited athlete). So you would want a robust list of other colleges, including colleges where you would be very likely to be admitted, and colleges where you are least middling likely to be admitted.

Then in my experience, Physics kids who like Yale might find a variety of different colleges interesting as well. That would depend on what pointed you to Yale in the first place.

Brown would definitely be one popular overlap school. Michigan maybe less so, and Virginia Tech even less so than that. Not that these are impossible overlaps, they are just not very obvious ones to me.

So if you liked, you could tell us more about what you are really looking for in a college experience, academically and non-academically, and we could give you more suggestions to consider.

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If you would like further ideas for schools with excellent physics programs, some of these suggestions may of interest: Chance me to MIT and Olin, and help me find target schools [MA resident, 3.9 GPA, high FA need, physics or related major] - #13 by merc81.

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Your SAT is below the 25th percentile for Yale.

Yes, but barely. The 25th %ile is 1480. And then there’s the fact that at least 14% of this year’s freshman class didn’t even submit test scores. So, when those additional 14% of accepted applicants are factored in - and the assumption is that they were all below the 25th %ile or they would have submitted - then I think that this student is in fact above the 25th %ile of ALL accepted applicants. Let’s throw into the mix that the 25th %ile on the ACT for this year’s freshman class was 33, which converts to an SAT of roughly 1460. So again, compared only to all test takers, we are within the 25th %ile before even getting to that other 14%.

Yale tells us that standardized test scores are not an important factor for admissions. They will be considered if submitted but are not seen as important. In that light, I can’t imagine that any admissions officer would rule her out on the basis of a 1470 or believe on that basis that she isn’t capable of meeting the standard required to do the work at Yale.

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Just chiming in to agree that while your SAT is not a strong positive for a college as competitive as Yale, it is also not so low that I would consider it a significant negative. Meaning I don’t think it will stop Yale from concluding you are sufficiently academically qualified based on your transcript (if they are so inclined, of course).

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Geographically, these schools are not all that close. How will you “watch your father” from all of these. Do you want to be closeby.

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This…which makes it very difficult to provide an accurate chance of acceptance. Apply and see…that’s all you can do.

As others have said, you also need some colleges on your list with much higher chances of acceptance.

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You can calculate it yourself.

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