Chance me? NU is my #1 Choice...

<p>Class of 2011
Attend Private Christian school in Michigan
Int’ student - Korean, male
In U.S. 3 years by end of next year.</p>

<p>Academics:
GPA: 4.3(W) 3.95(UW)
Rank: 1/215</p>

<p>SAT: CR 620 Math 730 Writing 640 Total 1990
SATII: World History 730, Math IIc 780. </p>

<p>AP World History 4, AP Stats 4
Taking AP Calc, Bio, Literature, Psych this year.
7 honors classes</p>

<p>Activities:
200+ hrs community service
A guitarist in a worship band ( 3yrs)
Yearbook staff, editor(12) (2yrs)
Glee club Tenor (2yrs)
New York Young Life Lake champion volunteer (2yrs)
Volunteer at international NGO(2yrs)
A Worship leader in English Worship Service in a Korean church ( during the summer breaks only, 3yrs)
Participant of the “Walk across the Nation” event (2yrs)
A talent show winner(if that counts… lol)
took 2nd place in Photography section in the school magazine.</p>

<p>Trying to major in either int’ relations or sociology.
chance me please?</p>

<p>It’ll be a pretty big reach for an Asian with a 1350. Make sure your essays are top notch.</p>

<p>No way unless you’re not a native english speaker, in which case you’d best be taking the TOEFL.</p>

<p>Side note: How do you end up as rank 1 in a HS and fail to break 2000 on the SAT?</p>

<p>GPA and rank are great but your SAT is really the killer… You still have a shot though! At least your SAT IIs are relatively good. Good luck dude.</p>

<p>@arbiter213 It suggests that his school is not terribly rigorous :frowning: or it could be that he’s just not a good test-taker. Who knows.</p>

<p>There was a girl in my HS whom I tutored in math. Now, I’m not very good at math. She was probably about average intelligence, kind of cute, I had a bit of a thing for her. I was top 20% of my HS class, she was top 10% (and thus in our “Cum Laude” society). Chick couldn’t break 2000 on the SAT, and is a very happy senior at Quinnipiac. </p>

<p>I went to a VERY rigorous HS. This story is exactly why I have no respect for HS GPA as any real kind of indicator beyond “good GPA is good, bad GPA is bad”.</p>

<p>I think we already have many examples that low SAT scores do not shut the door but they do hurt. Great essays would probably help you in. </p>

<p>@arbiter: hey, you remember. I said you are a little bit cynical. I’m not being malicious. after all, you really help a lot! :)</p>

<p>I don’t think I’m being cynical. I did go back and look at my HS’s profile for NU:</p>

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<p>As you can see, coming from one of the best HS’s in the country those are the stats you need. So while it’s POSSIBLE that with his low test scores he’ll get in, part of the point of the tests is to show what his GPA means in comparison. A religious Korean with no major extracurriculars and poor test scores has no hooks to help him out, and is nothing rare they’ll want to admit for diversity.</p>

<p>Additionally, since he’s only been in the US 3 years, he’s probably not a citizen, which further complicates things and makes it worse for him.</p>

<p>If he takes the TOEFL and does well enough, I give him a maybe. But as it stands it’d be a very lucky break if he’s admitted.</p>

<p>arbiter
I’m not saying you are cynical on this point. I just mentioned that because we have talked about something before. and after all what I want to express is that you really be of great help to many people.</p>

<p>Oh ok. Well thanks then.</p>