Claremont McKenna does not have a business major, but does have a business/finance flavored economics major.
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Thank you for the words. I have heard of Harvey Mudd but not Claremont.
The five schools function like one big campus, in many ways. They share a common registration system, so signing up for Mudd or Pomona or Pitzer or Scripps classes, as a CMC student, works exactly the same as signing up for CMC classes, and students mingle freely, eat at dining halls on any campus, participate in joint ECâs, etc. Itâs true that the undergrad major would be econ or econ/accounting, but the School of Econ & Finance is very business-y and also offers a BA/MA Scholars Program that allow students to complete an MA in Finance within the 4 years. (Although this ârequires significant advanced planningâ and would probably preclude completing a full CS major in the same timeframe.) You might find that it doesnât fit as well as some others, but the course offerings are there in all areas of interest and the financial aid is pretty generous, so it could be worth a look.
You might also check out Trinity U in San Antonio. They meet full need and have both a finance major and a cs major, and their Pathways Curriculum is double-major-friendly. With a 28% acceptance rate, Trinity would fall into the âmissing middleâ of your list, that I alluded to - still competitive and generous with aid, but not in the single-digit acceptance rate category.
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Are you not a senior?
Students typically start ROTC in their freshman or sophomore year of high school. If you start ROTC later, some people might question your motives.
It sounds like youâre grasping at straws to get funded and to get in free somewhere with prestige. As previously mentioned, a lot of schools that fund students want the top 5% of the class. That was the case with our children and what I experienced while working at a high school.
If youâre considering doing ROTC now, in order to get into a school later, the ROTC obligation comes with strings. In other words, your priorities are all messed up if youâre considering it for funding and admission.
This is not Boy Scout obligations; this is very different. Youâre planning for a career in the military. You donât get to decide your school schedule. They do. Itâs the military. They will run your life for a minimum of six years. My neighbor did this, but she did it because she knew from the start that she wanted a military career and used the ROTCâs resources. The education benefits came later.
Put affordable safeties on your list; if youâre able to get in anywhere else, great.
If you plan on going there, just to be there for a year, and then try to transfer out, then you donât understand what a safety is. Transfers tend to get limited aid. Going in, with one foot out the door does not bode well for you.
You need something, that you can afford, where you would be happy to attend, without being obligated by military service.
Your ECâs are not going to compensate for your grade point average and your class rank. The posters here have given you good recommendations. Use the help theyâve given you to direct your applications. And keep the applications to a minimum because you have to write all of their essays; it takes a lot of time.
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Junior ROTC sure. But many students donât start ROTC until they get to college.
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I went to my counselor today and discussed everything. I feel way better now talking to her. She said she will implement the family issues into her LOR and give a great one about my continuing growth. She literally had tears when I read my personal statement, so maybe itâs good?
She says that I am likely to get into a good school in my list. If not, then I will go to Ole Miss and get paid to the pocket (with all the scholarships I have) and use it towards a hyper prestigious school for Masters.
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Itâs a bit bothersome how you dismiss Ole Miss, a fine school that will get you into any grad school in the country but also puts out many successful undergrads on its own.
At my company, an Ole Miss manager is above both a Vandy and Emory grads.
Employment hierarchy is not set up by where you go like so many think. It happens based on what you doâŠ.and most importantlyâŠwho knows and likes you.
You can accomplish everything coming from Ole Miss that you can if you got into Northwestern.
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Not saying anything bad about it, donât get me wrong. I like Ole Miss but like iâve been here for more than 10 years and want to explore more lol.
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I can understand wanting to go elsewhere than your hometown for college. College is the best time to go away and discover another part of the country - the campus offers immediate social networks and support, no work or child obligations yet⊠Youâre free to go and explore, learn and grow.
The trick is to have a solid list.
Do you qualify for Questbridge? Their deadline is 9/30.
Did you/your parents look into whether you have a benefit similar to âtuition exchangeâ with other universities? This is a benefit many employees can get, a specific application process for employees of a university that is in a network with others.
Then y not MSU which is better known for STEM.
Get your ACT up and other schools can become options. UAH. Bama. Maybe Louisiana Lafayette. New Mexico. La Tech
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Iâm sharing the link to last yearâs thread on Tuition Exchange and the TE website, if you in fact confirm with your parents/their institution that it would be applicable:
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If you do end up staying in-state, one point in favor of MSU is that (unlike Ole Miss) itâs a member of the National Student Exchange, which would allow you to spend a semester or a full year at another participating school in a different part of the country, for your in-state cost.
For now, shoot your shot at Northwestern ED, and consider having an ED2 plan if NU doesnât break your way and if you donât get an EA acceptance you like better than the potential ED2 choices (Rice, Vandy, Emory and WUSTL all have ED2)⊠and apply EA wherever possible to schools that pass the affordability filter.
(Note that Trinity in San Antonio has Early Action, with decisions by 12/15; if the NPC is favorable there, that could be a nice one to add to your EA list. Itâs a school that I think we often forget to recommend, because it defies categories a bit - a LAC that has both business and engineering, meets full need, and is located in a part of the country that has few schools of that type. But itâs an excellent school that seems to check the boxes, if the $ works.)
I guess what you need to figure out is where your âworth paying forâ threshold is, when you can go to a well-regarded flagship university for better-than-free. Maybe thatâs why the âmissing middleâ is missing - because you feel like Northwestern and its peer schools are worth going out-of-pocket for, but you donât have a strong enough preference for schools like Lehigh or Trinity to spend six figures that you donât have to spend, for an undergrad degree. Thatâs entirely fair - only you can decide where the cutoff is, in terms of being worth applying.
I would say that Washington & Lee could be worth an application, because they definitely have what you need academically, and on top of meeting full need, they also give their full-ride Johnson Scholarship to 10% of admits. Deadline to be considered for that is December 1st.
As another reach to consider, CMU Tepper is a top-5 business school thatâs quite computation-heavy in general, and offers concentrations in Finance and AI, plus a Computational Finance program that takes applications sophomore year. With around a 10% acceptance rate, itâs another long shot, and it has more of a nerd/grind type vibe than most on your list so it might not be a fit in that regard, but itâs something to consider as it would certainly be a pipeline to the kind of work that seems to interest you.
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I canât qualify for questbridge. Iâll look into tuition exchange.
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Thank you! I didnât know ED2 could be after ED decision. I thought I had to pick one, I guess Iâll ED2 to the ones you listed above. I love CMU and itâs in my list but it is a long shot fs. I guess Iâll shoot my shots at these schools and hopefully get into one.
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When you ran the NPC for Michigan, did it at some point ask if you were in-state or out of state? If so, did you tell it out of state?
I am pretty sure that Michigan does not meet need for out of state students, but does meet need for in-state students. I am wondering whether or not the results that you showed in the screen shot is for in-state students.
You need to be a bit cautious about this when running NPCs.
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ED1 decisions come out mid-December, and ED2 deadlines are typically around the same time as the RD deadline. So, if you donât get into your ED1 school, you can then pick one school for an ED2 app, in addition to your RD apps, if one of the schools that offer ED2 is your first choice at that point.
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I think I did OOS, but maybe not.
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Actually I did do MS resident and did it again with my dad and went to 23k. How? It is undergrad too.
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There was a student a year ago from Alabama or Tennessee who said he got a very low # - so itâs possibleâŠeven if not probable.
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They do have some OOS need-based aid, but only for Pell-eligible students (which OP is).
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