<p>Strange combo, I know. Just trying to figure out where I want to go if (when) the rejection letter comes from UNC Chapel Hill. My stats:</p>
<p>White, Idahoan male</p>
<p>GPA: 3.972 (On an unweighted, A = 4 scale. Basically this means I’ve had one B in all of high school, damn Algebra)</p>
<p>Class rank: 13 of 417</p>
<p>SAT: 1300 Math: 570/Verbal: 730(First try, I’m taking it again on Nov.6 and once more on Dec. 4)</p>
<p>Clubs/activities:
National Honor Society
Young Progressives Club (President)
Newspaper (Editor-in-Chief)
Earth Club
Japan Club (Vice-Prez)</p>
<p>AP Classes:
AP US History (5)
AP English Lit/Comp
AP Macroeconomics
AP American Government </p>
<p>Also an avid cyclist who averages about 20 Hrs/WK on the bike, and has completed the Seattle to Portland Bicycle Classic (200 miles in 2 days) the last two years.</p>
<p>Also any thoughts on the following schools?
UCLA
UCSD
University of Washington
University of Arizona
University of Portland
University of Miami</p>
<p>You insult my intelligence, man… Anyway, what I mean is anybody who’s anybody or however the saying goes can get in.
Pretty much all you have to do is have a pulse. I’ve known some fools that I pity that went to USC. It’s quite an easy school to get into, despite the statistics. Anyway, you have a pretty good record.</p>
<p>I’m wondering if people have any suggestions as to where I should apply. I’m looking to major in Journalism, and distance and price are not issues. I’d love to go to Northwestern or Columbia, but I have no chance at those schools. Not a legacy anywhere (except Oregon State but I don’t want to go there). Basically open to any and all ideas!</p>
<p>For out-of-staters, Maryland is exceedingly difficult. Because of its very successful athletic program, the Terps are attracting a lot of top academic talent to the Old Line State. Increasingly popular in the Northeast (as is UConn) for students looking for that big school, big spirit university in the East (they want something that feels like a Big 10 or Big 12 school but not in the Midwest), Maryland is becoming more and more selective.</p>
<p>If you want journalism, the first and the best journalism school is the University of Missouri in Columbia, Missouri. It’s a Big 12 school with a very active student body and a lot of spirit. Columbia, Missouri bills itself as Collegetown USA and its a terrific place to go to college if that’s the atmosphere you want. Also, your journalism degree from Mizzou will open up doors for you immediately upon graduation. It could be the perfect place for you. They’re also doing a major building expansion to the school.</p>
<p>Another undergraduate journalism program to consider besides UNC and Mizzou is UGeorgia.</p>
<p>try UC-Berkley and USC. THey are about equal to get into, for out of staters. However for instate (California residents). It is much easier to get into UC-Berkeley.</p>
<p>I’m going to have to disagree with Anthony. Berkeley is more difficult to get into USC no matter which way you look at it. USC is a very good school that is still relatively easy to get into. To go to USC now would be the equivalent of “buying low.” It’s been skyrocketing up the charts. You will probably get into USC…and if you raise your SAT score some 50 points it’ll virtually become a safety school for you. As for the UC’s, you’re going to have to raise that SAT score to be competitive at UCLA and UC-Berkeley, especially since you’re applying from out of state. They’re going to be looking at almost exclusively numbers, so try to get that up to around a 1370 or higher.</p>
<p>I’m really not trying to be a smartass here guys, but why is USC so easy to get in when the acceptance rate is only 30%? I feel like I’m missing something.</p>
<p>Oh, and I have no delusions about Berkeley. Scores aren’t good enough, and I know I’d do poorly on the SAT II Math tests.</p>
<p>Lots of people who are unfit for even acceptance to UCLA apply to it as the second choice. So lots of inept candidates who barely have surety of acceptance into UCs and will likely have to settle for a CSU if USC won’t take them in end up applying.</p>
<p>Perhaps you will notice that the rate of accept students who enroll is also quite low (at 34%), genious, when compared to other California schools - UCLA’s 39 and Berkeley’s 41. Also, it sorely measures up to other private schools, whose enrollment rates usually range from 60-70%. It is more on par with the lower UC’s (UCI at 22%, for example) obscenly low rate of enrollment.</p>
<p>So if you like numbers so much, there’re a few numbers for you. Most people apply to USC as a backup school - most of the people I’ve met who ended up going there actually aspiring to UCLA, UCB, or Ivies and having been rejected. Much like how most of the people I’ve met who go to Stanford were rejected by the upper-ivies.</p>
<p>As a final note, I do think your abilities will suffice for the admission’s committee at USC.</p>
<p>Ilovepoker I will disagree
UC-B 2004 average SAT Verbal of Freshmen was 629 and average math was 671.
USC’s average SAT Verbal was 652 and math was 683.</p>
<p>Only 10% of UCB are from out of state. The reason UCB seems difficult to get into is the sheer number of applicants they received (since they are becoming a higher ranked school every year and their low instate tuition cost and rising engineer/business fields). As for the 34% of USC students that go to USC, their tuition cost is almost 40K!, which is crazy for most students. UCB has a very simple formula which follows:</p>
<p>0-8,200 points for Standardized scores, GPA, class rank and rigorness of class
CLASSES RIGORNESS is usually ranked on the following scale from lowest to highest
Standard Classes
Honors Classes
AP Classes
IB Classes
College Level Classes
(some schools do not offer a full range of classes, so they will be granted points for coming from a “disadvantaged school” to make up for some of the academic points)
0-300 points for low income families
0-300 points for graduating out of a low ranked HS (as mentioned above)
0-300 points for being first one in your family to attend college
0-1,700 points for unusual talents, awards and experience
300 points MAX for leadership (president of club = 150 pts, president of student body = 300)
0-300 points for special talents (Musical instrument, drama…etc.)
0-300 points for volunteer services and enrichment programs
500 points MAX for personal challeneges in life </p>
<p>Around 7500 points will gain you admission to atleast 1 of the UC’s garuanteed.
UCB is projected around 8000</p>
<p>“UC-B 2004 average SAT Verbal of Freshmen was 629 and average math was 671.
USC’s average SAT Verbal was 652 and math was 683.”</p>
<p>You have 23,000 students at Berk with roughly 5700 students scoring a 740+ math SAT and 5700 scoring a 700+ verbal SAT. USC has about 4000 students scoring 700+ Verbal and 4000 scoring 710+. So, if you want to look at it that way, Berk has more students with high SATs (especially Math).</p>
<p>“Ilovepoker I will disagree
UC-B 2004 average SAT Verbal of Freshmen was 629 and average math was 671.
USC’s average SAT Verbal was 652 and math was 683.”</p>
<p>I really want to go to USC too mostly because of my family’s ties with the school. However, I’m not going to pretend like it’s the best school in the country because it isn’t. The scores you quoted are spot on but the only problem is you failed to mention that USC takes the best verbal and the best math scores which dont have to come from the same test date, resulting in an artificial boost in their SAT score averages :P</p>
<p>USC is a good school regardless of what some people will tell you. UCB is probably better academically but SC is slowly gaining recognition. The difference between the two is minimal if youre going for a Masters; going to UCB as opposed to USC for your Bachelors wont make too much difference when you apply for grad school assuming you get those good grades.</p>
<p>hey guys, usc is my #1 choice, what are my chances?
Sat: 710 math; 630 verbal
average ecs and good essay and recs;
sat2s 650+ on all
gpa weighted 3.8
bad rank though, 51/430</p>
