Chances Better EA or RD?

<p>White Male
Irish Parents
Catholic
ACT: 32, might get 33 on Oct test
GPA: 3.84
AP’s taken:
AP Biology
AP Chemistry
AP Lang and Comp
AP US History
AP Physics B
AP Lit and Comp
AP Calc AB
AP Gov and Politics</p>

<p>Essays and Recs are solid</p>

<p>EC’s
Student body pres
National honor society pres
Community service: in country and international
Gaelic football captain
Editor of school newspaper
Cross Country and Track (9, 10, 11 only)
Worked on construction site during summer: 50 hrs a week
Do property maintainance during school year: 5 hrs per week</p>

<p>Is your GPA weighted or unweighted? Since the Oct ACT was last Sat. you will not get your scores back in time for the EA date of Nov. 1. So I assume that you are applying with a 32 ACT. Did you take the SAT and if so how were your scores.<br>
You have very impressive EC. What is your class rank?
Recently spoke with regional admissions counselor from ND and they stressed that you should only apply EA if the app you put in is the best it can be. Not knowing your rank or if your GPA is weighted or unweighted are two missing components to give EA or RD advice. You will be competing with the best of the best in an EA pool. Personally, I think you look good for RD but if your GPA is weighted it may be on the lower side for EA. You want to stand out in a EA pool and I have to believe most candidates applying early have a 32+ act. However, that score in RD will be a bit stronger, I think. Having said all of that you look like a great well rounded student and I wish you the best of luck in your college search.</p>

<p>Just a clarification, standardized tests do NOT need to be scored before November 1st. The just need to be taken on or before Nov. 1st. I called the ND admissions office and they WILL take any October test dates (including October 25th ACT) and the Nov. 1 SATs for early action. The scores just need to be either rushed for the SAT, or priority scored for the ACT. So, if you were to get a 33 and you priority scored it, they will see it for Early Action.</p>

<p>my GPA is unweighted and my school does not rank</p>

<p>what if i didnt RUSH my october scores for EA?</p>

<p>neonblue327: If you are referring to SAT scores, you can simply go online, go to the send scores page, and then choose the rush option for something like $27.00. You don’t need to do it before the test is taken. I waited for my scores and then decided to rush them a week later. As long as you rush them before Nov 10th-ish, (Meaning they will be there by Nov. 15th), then you will be fine. However, if you had put Notre Dame down prior to the test as one of the schools that will receive your scores, you might want to place a call into College Board and have them switch the scores from normal delivery to rushed. Although they could be scored quicker than the average time, there are no guarantees. Normal delivery can take up to 8 weeks, which obviously isn’t OK for EA. It is easy to do, you just need to call them.</p>

<p>If you are referring to the ACT, you need to wait for the scores to be available (should be Nov. 12th according to the website), and once you see them you need to call ACT and have them mail the scores as “priority scores.” That should get the scores there within about 2-3 days, somewhere around Mid Nov. </p>

<p>Hope that helped and good luck!</p>

<p>collegeboard sucks so much. They are the shadiest/most lucrative non-profit ever.</p>

<p>generally speaking, your chances are always better for RD. And yes, i realize that probably did not help a whole lot, but it’s all i’m qualified to say.</p>

<p>^wait, seriously? Crap.</p>

<p>Here’s the thing about ND early admissions. You’ll be competing against many very qualified applicants in the early round and thus the acceptance rate will be higher. However, they defer very few people I believe so if you are borderline you’ll probably be flat out rejected and that’ll be it for ND. But against the RD pool the acceptance rate is lower but you get compared against the relative strength of that pool and whether or not you will be given admission is based upon that.</p>

<h2>ND09 – Actually they defer quite a few – around 40%. And “if there’s any doubt” they defer. Here’s an article from the Observer on the Class of 2010. </h2>

<p>Fewer than 1,300 high school seniors received early acceptance letters from Notre Dame this December, selected from a highly competitive pool of more than 2,600 applicants - a pool slightly smaller than last year’s but just as decorated. </p>

<p>Twenty-two of the applicants had perfect SAT scores. Each accepted student, on average, was in the top 3.7 percent of his or her class. Their average SAT score was 1420, and their ACT average was 32, admission officials said.</p>

<p>Assistant Provost in Admissions Daniel Saracino said it is more difficult to be accepted through early action, and this year the admissions office was particularly selective. Seven hundred and eighty applicants were denied and 590 applications were deferred to the regular admission pool. </p>

<p>“If there was any doubt in my mind, we deferred them,” Saracino said. “We deferred students who, based on our best evaluation, we felt we couldn’t decide right away … It’s not an art. It’s not a science. It’s making educated guesses.”</p>

<p>Early action is typically used by recruited athletes and students with outstanding credentials, Saracino said. Students receiving early acceptances have until May 1 to confirm. Notre Dame’s non-binding early action process is somewhat unique among its peer institutions, many of which rely on binding early decisions or early action-single choice.</p>

<p>“It’s not fair to students [accepted early] to put them in a position were they’re forced to make a decision [on what college they want to go to],” Saracino said. “Early action is all we have, and it all we will ever have as long as I’m here. High school counselors tell us early action is the kindest option.”</p>

<p>Saracino said the admissions office was particularly cautious in its selection of early applicants this year in anticipation of an unprecedented number of applicants for the class of 2010.</p>

<p>“Based upon increases in the numbers in the past year of visitor interviews, inquiries and information sessions, we had every indicator [for an] increase in overall applications [for the class of 2010],” he said.</p>

<p>Saracino’s prediction was dead-on. Though regular applications are still being processed - the deadline was Dec. 31 - Saracino estimates that the total number of applicants will be at least 12,600. That’s 4 percent higher than 2002 - the previous record-holding year - and 8 percent higher than last year.</p>

<p>“The story of Notre Dame is getting out more than ever,” Saracino said. “In spite of the weather and location, Notre Dame is a special place.” </p>

<p>Saracino added that the University attracts students who want to go to school with people like themselves, and many believe that Notre Dame is where that can happen.</p>

<p>“Notre Dame is the only major University with a faith tradition,” he said. “We’re the only religiously connected school in the top 20. This is a place filled with faith-filled students.”</p>

<p>Of the 1,241 accepted early action applicants, Saracino said 19 percent are ethnic minorities (compared to 16 percent last year), 22 percent are children of alumni and 83 percent are Catholic. He is confident the demographics and credentials of the early accepted students will be mirrored in the regular admission pool.</p>

<p>“We would not consider it a success this year if we did not enroll a more impressive class than ever before,” Saracino said. “The class is going to be the most talented and ethnically diverse in [the University’s] history.”</p>