Chances?

<p>Chances for Stanford?</p>

<p>Gender: Male
Ethnicity: Hispanic
State of Residency: Louisiana</p>

<p>Academics
GPA: 3.94 (out of 4.0)
Rank: 2/85
SAT I: 2180 Composite (800 W, 690 CR, 690 M)
SAT IIs: 730 Literature, 680 World History, 650 Biology
ACT: 33 Composite (36 English, 32 Math, 32 Critical Reading, 31 Science)
AP Tests: English Language & Literature - 5, U.S. History - 4, Biology - 4</p>

<p>EC's
Advanced Debate: 9, 10, 11, 12 (Captain) [State Runner-Up]
Varsity Swimming: 9, 10, 11, 12, (Captain) [Conference Champions]
Future Business Leaders of America: 10, 11, 12 (President) [National Qualifier]
City Youth Council (Community Service): 10, 11, 12 (Senior Member)
Varsity Tennis: 9, 10, 11, 12 (Conference Champions)
Improv Team: 9, 10, 11, 12 (Senior Member)
Hispanic Club: 9, 10, 11, 12 (Vice-President)</p>

<p>My intended major is English Language & Literature - General.
I'm an exceptional writer, so I think my essays will really help me out on the app.
So do I have a good shot? Also, does applying EA help my chances?</p>

<p>you have a decent chance and are definitely qualified, but so are thousands of others. it's hard to say anything specific.</p>

<p>i believe that applying REA helps few peoples chances. exceptions would be recruited athletes and maybe some other demographics.</p>

<p>NJDS - okay. I think I'm going to apply RD. also, does being a Hispanic significantly increase my chances? I'm 50% Venezuelan</p>

<p>you're hispanic, you can get in LITERALLY anywhere you want</p>

<p>^ Being a URM can help in some places, but it is not a free ticket, even if you have amazing academics, stats, and ECs</p>

<p>At Stanford, being Hispanic/Latino/a doesnt help as much as at other places because they do receive many applications from Latino/a students (it is california!)</p>

<p>Damn, I hoped it would help haha.</p>

<p>NJDS, just out of curiosity, I was considering also applying to Brown or Yale. Would either of those schools give me an advantage because of my URM status?</p>

<p>im definitely not saying it wont help
im saying it will help comparatively less than at other schools.
IMO it may slightly help at all of them, but dont even factor URM into your planning because its so unreliable</p>

<p>Okay, thanks NJDS</p>

<p>Being an URM or a girl helps out a lot. It gives you some serious points with the University. Year after year my friends with amazing stats and ECs get rejected and people with stats lower than theirs, who are URM, get in....it's a terrible system</p>

<p>WolverineWhiz - It's logical when you think about it, in my opinion. Stanford won't admit a minority if he/she really is underqualified. They just easen up the requirements a little. The majority of Hispanics, African Americans, and Native Americans living in the US don't go to college and remain impoverished throughout their lives, so when the hardworking of these groups make it to high school graduation, colleges want to make it a little easier for them. I think its fair to be a little less harsh on middle class minorities in public schools (like myself) in comparison to wealthy white students who attend private schools.</p>

<p>As people have stated, its difficult to say whether or not you will get into Stanford specifically. i think being from Louisiana and being Hispanic with your stats and ECs mean that you are very competetive. If you apply to a good number of top schools, and I assume you are (Brown and Yale were mentioned i think) you will almost definitely get into some of them. Its hard to say if Stanford will be one of those schools, but it certainly could be. Good luck and congrats on your work throughout high school.</p>

<p>Also, I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that you're white wolverine? yeah, thought so. While minorities may get a more obvious boost when applying for admission to college, whites get have the advantage of living in generally richer areas with better school systems and thus having more access to info concerning college, more APs, ECs, and all those other things that help when applying. So really, the system still benefits whites more than minorities, though those benefits are less obvious to the casual observer. This all comes from a relatively well off white kid who was accepted to the class of '14 at Stanford.</p>

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Also, I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that you're white wolverine? yeah, thought so. While minorities may get a more obvious boost when applying for admission to college, whites get have the advantage of living in generally richer areas with better school systems and thus having more access to info concerning college, more APs, ECs, and all those other things that help when applying. So really, the system still benefits whites more than minorities, though those benefits are less obvious to the casual observer. This all comes from a relatively well off white kid who was accepted to the class of '14 at Stanford.

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<p>ALL whites come from richer areas with better school systems? your entire premise is ridiculous.</p>

<p>I hate how everything turns into an affirmative action debate.</p>

<p>^They definitely don't all come from richer areas lol. But far more white people are wealthy/upper middle class than minorities.
Actually, white students who come from disadvantaged backgrounds (first in their families to go to college, low family salary, etc.) usually also get judged a little easier from what I've read.</p>

<p>Haha I'm sorry it turned into an aff-action debate, didn't mean for this to happen.</p>

<p>"whites get have the advantage of living in GENERALLY richer areas with better school systems"</p>

<p>No, not all whites live in richer areas. Thats why I said generally they do, but not always. But, yes lets not get into affirmative action.</p>

<p>"Being ... a girl helps out a lot" with admission chances? That is certainly news (and contrary to everything I have read for several years).</p>

<p>^ Only for engineering. Otherwise, no</p>

<p>the admit rate for male and female are very comparable at stanford, but the unofficial policy at many universities is to have sex-based affirmative action in engineering to attract more females.</p>

<p>at places like stanford, im not so sure how much it factors in, especially since mobility across majors and departments is so great. id say it would help more at schools where you are locked into engineering.</p>

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"whites get have the advantage of living in GENERALLY richer areas with better school systems"</p>

<p>No, not all whites live in richer areas. Thats why I said generally they do, but not always

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<p>Unfounded. One's race no longer has ANY bearing on one's socio-economic class.</p>

<p>Hmm, seems like you have a really good chance - I wouldn't completely bank on it, but still, you're lookin' pretty good. And the URM thing does help...</p>